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Post by Red on Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:07 pm

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/keep-tim-paine-in-for-ashes-rod-marsh/story-e6frf9if-1225942435942

"Tim is a more correct or traditional type player, whereas Brad with the bat can be as explosive as anyone I've ever seen,," Marsh said in an interview on the ICC's website. "However, Tim has done so well it is going to be hard for Brad to get back in. That's not such a bad thing for Australian cricket if you've got two guys playing exceptionally well and challenging each other. "I think Tim, obviously playing in Test matches now, and also a few one-dayers, his keeping will come on in leaps and bounds. It happens that the more you're picked, the better you become."
Apparently Hildick still thinks that Haddin should be retained but...
Greg Chappell's appointment to the selection panel might also work in Paine's favour because it might bring a more adventurous tone to the table. During Chappell's last stint as a selector, Australia plucked Ian Healy from the obscurity of being second choice keeper for Queensland.
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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by skully on Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:26 pm

I can't say I'd be devastated if Paine was retained, but I still reckon the NSP will go with Haddit.

Still, GSC may have showed his cards with recent comments about aging players. The wicketkeeping position seems to be the one slot we don't really have to worry about.
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Post by Henry on Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:29 pm

Still, GSC may have showed his cards with recent comments about aging players. The wicketkeeping position seems to be the one slot we don't really have to worry about.

Until they pick Haddin for the first test......
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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by Zat on Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:40 pm

I'd be happy with either Paine or Haddin as keeper for the Ashes. But Paine is definitely the long-term prospect. Wouldn't hurt for him to be retained.

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Post by skully on Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:46 pm

Henry wrote:
Still, GSC may have showed his cards with recent comments about aging players. The wicketkeeping position seems to be the one slot we don't really have to worry about.

Until they pick Haddin for the first test......
Could this be Trev's first woof of the Ashes?
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Post by JGK on Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:50 pm

I think the middle order batting jitters will convince the NSP to bring back Haddin.


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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by Zat on Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:55 pm

They've gone for Haddin in the t20 v Sri Lanka.

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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by horace on Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:56 pm

haddin tho did not really help us in the last ashes campaign...Ian Healy more regularly got us out of trouble than haddit and heals was half the batsman
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Post by G.Wood on Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:51 pm

Zat wrote:They've gone for Haddin in the t20 v Sri Lanka.

Keep Haddin for the pyjama games and use Paine in the proper stuff.

Than that fat@rse spiv smith could move tasmania and play when Paine is away
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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by Fred Nerk on Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:59 pm

If the middle order is dodgy then to me that's an argument for Paine and against Haddin.

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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by horace on Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:03 pm

everyone seems in favour of paine in the Tests...is that a first?
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Post by Fred Nerk on Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:12 pm

Seems nobody much wants Haddin except Aunt Hilda - and I've just heard Hads had been named for the SL ODIous.

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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by Henry on Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:40 pm

Compared to Paine(Who played some gutsy knocks in India), i've never seen Haddin make high pressure runs. I can remember his century against lowly New Zealand on an Adelaide road, and his cash-in century at Cardiff coming in at 400-5. They were easy runs. Every time I see him bat under pressure, he gets out playing a daft shot.


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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by JGK on Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:41 pm

He made a good 90 against the Saffies at the MCG which ended up setting them some sort of target (which they did easily in the end).


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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by lardbucket on Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:20 pm

Marsh wanted Read over GoJones etc ... but he didn't get his wish there either.

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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by Henry on Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:27 pm

I wonder who Nielsen and Ponting prefer? I've got a feeling they'd want Haddin.
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Post by Fred Nerk on Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:35 pm

If Ponting wants player X and the ACB heavyweights want player Y, we know X may as well book in for a round of golf.

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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by lardbucket on Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:13 pm

horace wrote:everyone seems in favour of paine in the Tests...is that a first?

it's still not everybody ...

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Post by skully on Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:59 pm

horrie flip-flops every 7 years. Cool
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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by horace on Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:04 pm

Lol. Of course we were right to support Paine ahead of the dire Haddit.
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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by lardbucket on Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:27 am

If Haddin was 'dire', what was Wade?

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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by horace on Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:07 am

Ordinary. Kept ok in the subi-con but showed little with bat.

fwiw I rate Haddit as the better but more irresponsible bat than Weed, tho the latter made some timely knocks. I rate Weed as the less error prone keeper.

Neither could be classed as good keepers.

Gilly while not a natural like a Grout, Healy or Jordan or even Berry, was a better keeper than Wade, Haddin and on par with Paine who I believe is over. His height quick reflexes and greater athleticism made up for some minor deficits. His keeping standards deteriorated late in his career as the 'fast twitch' slowed.

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Post by lardbucket on Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:19 am

I think Gilly's keeping was under-rated. Obviously not as good as Healy to spin, but still very good.

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Post by Growler on Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:57 pm

Thing with Gilly though, is that on the odd occasion that he missed a stumping/conceded a few byes/failed to take an edge thus letting a batsman off - his batting usually made up for it in short order.....

........ the bar steward Cool (from an English POV of course.)

There's little doubt he raised the standard of the keeper/bat to new heights. Few since have even come close.

As an aside, I like him as a commentator/pundit. Likewise Ricky Ponting - someone to whom I newer really warmed to in his playing days. Love his verbal sparring with MPV over the 2005 series.
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Re: Marsh wants Paine over Haddin

Post by lardbucket on Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:05 pm

Well, as the record books now show, only Haddin (29) and Marsh (26) have taken more catches than Paine in ANY 5-Test series.  Paine is equal 3rd on 25 catches with Russell, Boucher, and Gilchrist (who took 25 catches in a 4 Test series v India).


He's in fair company.


http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283344.html


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