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England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by skully on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 00:14

The workman-like England v the red hot Indians. Who will prevail?
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by Henry on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 00:24

The persistent-like rain.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by horace on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 08:18

now he's Trevving the weather
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by skully on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 08:31

So what be the rules if it is washed out? On checking the rules...


"If following a tie, weather conditions prevent the Super Over from being completed, or if the match is a no result, the teams will be declared joint winners"



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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by beamer on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 08:42

Yeah, even a coin toss would be a more satisfactory outcome than that.

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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by horace on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 08:42

"If following a tie, weather conditions prevent the Super Over from being completed, or if the match is a no result, the teams will be declared joint winners"

hey man, dont bogart that
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by Big Dog on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 08:50

India will choke. England in a canter.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by Henry Nolonga on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 09:05

India's batting is due to fail. England favourites i reckon. England's top three will score at over a run a ball just to rub it in everyone's faces.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by PlanetPakistan on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 13:38

I wonder why England haven't sucked this time around. 

India on the other hand are a class unit and in my book they were the favorites to win the title even before a ball was bowled in the tournament.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by Henry on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 14:12

PlanetPakistan wrote:I wonder why England haven't sucked this time around. 

India on the other hand are a class unit and in my book they were the favorites to win the title even before a ball was bowled in the tournament.

Before the recent series with New Zealand, they hadn't lost a home ODI series since 2009.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by furriner on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 14:42

Henry wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:I wonder why England haven't sucked this time around. 

India on the other hand are a class unit and in my book they were the favorites to win the title even before a ball was bowled in the tournament.

Before the recent series with New Zealand, they hadn't lost a home ODI series since 2009.

ODIs, it's sometimes hard to make out when they're winning or losing.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by Brass Monkey on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 14:58

We've been good at nicking series whilst riddled with ineptitude and, in some regards, a lack of professionalism. This, however, still puts us poles apart from Pakistan, who just stop short of being an absolute sham.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by LeFromage on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 15:15

England have been helped by the weather. The batting is stodgy and shotless. The attack is suited to dobbery conditions. 

When it was dry and the pitch was true against Sri Lanka, the batting couldn't dominate and the bowlers got carted.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by beamer on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 18:38

Yeah, on a pitch where 250-ish is par we're a pretty good side. Where closer to 300 is required we're the equivalent of a Skoda in an F1 race.

The shared trophy still looks favourite at this point in time. Which India will be disappointed with... class of the field by a distance on the evidence so far. How long ago was it when Indian cricket, at national team level at least, was seemingly going head first down the crapper at some speed? The batting old guard gone or going, usual mediocre seam attack and barely even a spinner of note. Suddenly they have a decent young side in all formats, though still wouldn't back them to win too many away Tests.

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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by PeterCS on Fri 21 Jun 2013, 18:54

England must have some sort of a chance, if nothing else on the basis that being clear underdogs suits them. 

They have from the point of view of expectations nowt to lose.

Whereas Top Dog = disaster alley for the Poms, it seems.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by furriner on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 04:27

If the pitch is doing something, England wins.

If it isn't, our FTBs are going to be all over this, moustaches twirling, smirks unfurling.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by JGK on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 05:24

Go England.

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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by furriner on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 06:36

JGK wrote:Go England.

Thank you.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by taipan on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 07:38

beamer wrote:Yeah, on a pitch where 250-ish is par we're a pretty good side. Where closer to 300 is required we're the equivalent of a Skoda in an F1 race.

The shared trophy still looks favourite at this point in time. Which India will be disappointed with... class of the field by a distance on the evidence so far. How long ago was it when Indian cricket, at national team level at least, was seemingly going head first down the crapper at some speed? The batting old guard gone or going, usual mediocre seam attack and barely even a spinner of note. Suddenly they have a decent young side in all formats, though still wouldn't back them to win too many away Tests.

Test series coming up in SA. Will be interesting to see what SRT does.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by buckSH on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 09:12

furriner wrote:If the pitch is doing something, England wins.

If it isn't, our FTBs are going to be all over this, moustaches twirling, smirks unfurling.

I agree with this ! 

the ratsy moustaches .. eww yuck. 

I don't mind the Merv Hughes or Lech Walesa type walrus beer mouche though.


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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by buckSH on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 09:13

taipan wrote:
beamer wrote:Yeah, on a pitch where 250-ish is par we're a pretty good side. Where closer to 300 is required we're the equivalent of a Skoda in an F1 race.

The shared trophy still looks favourite at this point in time. Which India will be disappointed with... class of the field by a distance on the evidence so far. How long ago was it when Indian cricket, at national team level at least, was seemingly going head first down the crapper at some speed? The batting old guard gone or going, usual mediocre seam attack and barely even a spinner of note. Suddenly they have a decent young side in all formats, though still wouldn't back them to win too many away Tests.

Test series coming up in SA. Will be interesting to see what SRT does.

he will break something !

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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by skully on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 07:22

Live webcam from Bleakingham. Looks like a game of Tetris.

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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by Big Dog on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 09:10

From Crocinfo:

9.05 am Not good news. It's drizzling and the heavy duty covers are on, protecting the pitch and the square. The rain is not heavy at the moment but the precautions in place indicate more is expected.
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by Brass Monkey on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 09:48

It's a lovely day!
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Re: England v India, ICCCT Final, Edgbaston, 23 June, 2013

Post by beamer on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 10:10

I hope they're sensible in terms of allowing cricket to be played whenever possible to try and get a result. When I've been to Edgbaston they've always been terrible at getting a game on - covering systems that are like setting up an Antarctic expedition, an hour to dismantle everything when it stops raining, then a bit of fine drizzle and they put it all back on again. I predict a no result with a fair bit of time wasted in playable conditions!

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