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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by Henry on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:00

Hang on a minute.

One of crickets most respected warriors who has a previously exceptional record of fair play and integrity feels the need to say this about the current Australian team. Instead of suddenly calling him a sook, maybe you should open your eyes and wonder if he might, just might, be telling it how it is.

If Kumble feels the need to say this, then many people in cricket will believe him and support him.
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by tac on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:01

Henry wrote:Hang on a minute.

One of crickets most respected warriors who has a previously exceptional record of fair play and integrity feels the need to say this about the current Australian team. Instead of suddenly calling him a sook, maybe you should open your eyes and wonder if he might, just might, be telling it how it is.

If Kumble feels the need to say this, then many people in cricket will believe him and support him.


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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by Henry on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:06

Yeah, laugh it up tac. Just a few days ago you and many other Aussies praised Kumble for being an exceptional man and competitor. Suddenly he's criticised your beloved Aussie cricket team and he's a whining sook. It's just so typical of you.
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by tac on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:12

Henry wrote:Yeah, laugh it up tac. Just a few days ago you and many other Aussies praised Kumble for being an exceptional man and competitor. Suddenly he's criticised your beloved Aussie cricket team and he's a whining sook. It's just so typical of you.

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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by Henry on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:15

So you've got nothing? Right......
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by tac on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:16

Henry wrote:So you've got nothing? Right......

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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by Invader Zim on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:24

So what exactly is Kumble referring to?

If it's the umpiring, I don't see how that can have anything whatso ever to do with the Aussie XI or CA.

If it's something else, name names and events.
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by Henry on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:29

"Ugly" is the word being used in the media to describe this test. Must have been funny seeing Ponting when he did the press conference and hardly anybody talked about his teams win. Laughing
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Post by tac on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:30

Henry wrote:"Ugly" is the word being used in the media to describe this test. Must have been funny seeing Ponting when he did the press conference and hardly anybody talked about his teams win. Laughing

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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by Invader Zim on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:31

Jeez, you really are a bitter old queen.
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by JKLever on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:41

I'm afraid if you lose and have some bad decisions against you, you just have to bite your tongue otherwise you look like an extremely bad sport.

And so the umpiring was poor in this game - big deal!!!! You think you're the first team to suffer by poor umpiring Anil?

Does he think non-walking started at the beggining of this test ?

Go back to the 2005 Ashes at Trent Bridge, the Aussies got some woeful decisions in their 2nd innings. Sure there was some moaning on the messageboard, but we're fans and thats our perogative.
I didn't hear threats from the Aussie camp about reporting umpires FFS
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by tac on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:43

The poms probably lost a series against the Indians due to a bad call last year.
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by please don't yell on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:46

Nope because when we reflected later it was clear your team wanted those ashes more than us you played better and when on a roll things can go your way with the umps.

Our problem is we were outplayed and never gave ourselves the chance to apply pressure.

problems with teams like India is they won't reflect on the many things they themselves did wrong in this series when it's easier to think they would be 2-0 up if the universe wasn't against them.

Introspection can be tough when luck goes against you but it's only your own faults that can be fixed the luck will be whatever it will be.

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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by lardbucket on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:49

The 2005 Ashes loss was the best thing to happen to the Australian cricket team in the last 5 years ... made them even hungrier.

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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by *Buckaroo* on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:49

Henry wrote:Yeah, laugh it up tac. Just a few days ago you and many other Aussies praised Kumble for being an exceptional man and competitor. Suddenly he's criticised your beloved Aussie cricket team and he's a whining sook. It's just so typical of you.

Irony is lost on our Aussie postors.
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by Invader Zim on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:50

JKLever wrote:I'm afraid if you lose and have some bad decisions against you, you just have to bite your tongue otherwise you look like an extremely bad sport.

And so the umpiring was poor in this game - big deal!!!! You think you're the first team to suffer by poor umpiring Anil?

Does he think non-walking started at the beggining of this test ?

Go back to the 2005 Ashes at Trent Bridge, the Aussies got some woeful decisions in their 2nd innings. Sure there was some moaning on the messageboard, but we're fans and thats our perogative.
I didn't hear threats from the Aussie camp about reporting umpires FFS
Wise words JKL.
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by Henry on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:52

I don't think Kumble is complaining about the umpiring decisions. The Indian team manager did that. I might be wrong but isn't Kumble as an international captain restricted from publically criticising umpiring decisions?

I think Kumble is referring to the Ponting non 'catch' and the Clarke 'catch'.
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by JGK on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:52

Back to the Spririt of the Game, does anyone really think that Sharma "accidentally" came out with 2 right hand gloves today?

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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by Henry on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:54

I guess it's no less likely than a Brett Lee 'accidental' beamer.
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by JGK on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:54

Henry wrote:I guess it's no less likely than a Brett Lee 'accidental' beamer.


But apparently India is playing within the spirit of the game.

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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by lardbucket on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:57

Henry wrote:I don't think Kumble is complaining about the umpiring decisions. The Indian team manager did that. I might be wrong but isn't Kumble as an international captain restricted from publically criticising umpiring decisions?

I think Kumble is referring to the Ponting non 'catch' and the Clarke 'catch'.

both were out, IMO

Ponting had total control of the ball (which Dhoni had hit) and it was still grasped totally within his hand before one surface of it touched the ground ... and there was absolutely nothing wrong with Clarke's catch. It was a disgrace that Ganguly stood there AFTER the umpire had given his decision.

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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by JGK on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 12:58

The Ponting "catch" was almost identical to one Paul Harris took last night against the Windies.

TBH - I'm not sure what the interpretation is in those cases.

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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by lardbucket on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:02

Over the years in Test cricket there must have been literally dozens of close catches taken and held, with part of the ball then coming into contact with the ground after the catch was completed. That does not disqualify the catch.

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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by JKLever on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:03

I take it Rahul didn't advise Anil on this unfair play, given the photographic evidence of his sweetie ball tampering affair?
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Re: Holy carp. Did Jumbo really say that?

Post by Henry on Sun 06 Jan 2008, 13:03

The ball clearly touched the turf. Not out. Ponting got all worked up about it. He actually denied that the ball ever touched the turf, despite clear video evidence to the contrary.

The Harris one should have been not out as well. Perhaps the players don't know the rules.
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