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Usain Bolt up soon in the 100m final
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Doped up parade that still loses out compared to the attention span of the typical luddite these days.
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Bolt in 9.77.
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Athletics world records set to be wiped
A slew of suspect world records - including Marita Koch’s astounding 400m mark set in Canberra more than three decades ago - are to be wiped from the record books under a sweeping proposal considered by the world athletics body the IAAF.
The radical move, which has to be approved by officials later in the year, is meant to restore some credibility to the world records, but will result in the wiping of some other records considered above suspicion.
There are 12 men’s world records in Olympic events, and 18 women’s records in Olympic events (all outdoors) that would be culled under the plan.
Other pre-2005 world records for indoor events and non-Olympic events will also be “recalibrated”.
World record holding British athletes, Paula Radcliffe and triple jumper Jonathan Edwards have hit out at the plan. Edwards said he had always anticipated losing his world record leap of 18.29m but not to a sporting administrator.
Radcliffe, who set the marathon world record in 2003 said she was hurt by the move and felt it would damage her reputation and dignity.
She said: ’’It is a heavy handed way to wipe out some really suspicious records in a cowardly way by simply sweeping all aside instead of having the guts to take the legal plunge and wipe any record that would be found in a court of law to have been illegally assisted.’’
The move comes after the European Athletics Association proposed the changes to put to the IAAF at its meeting in August.
Svein Arne Hansen, the European Athletics president, said world records “are meaningless if people don’t really believe them”.
IAAF president Sebastian Coe said: “There will be athletes, current record holders, who will feel that the history we are recalibrating will take something away from them, but if organised and structured properly we have a good chance of winning back credibility in this area.’’
Under the plan world record holders will have had to have been drug tested at least six times in the months before setting the world record and the drug sample taken at the competition where the record was set must be stored and available for retesting.
It means all records set before 2005 - the year that the IAAF first started storing samples - will only be considered on the all-time lists and not recognised as being the world records.
The move will wipe some of the most enduring and memorable athletics moments from the record books, including long jumper Mike Powell’s leap of 8.95m in 1991 that usurped Bob Beamon’s high altitude mark; and Hicham El Guerrouj’s 1500m time of 3min 26.00sec he set in Rome in 1998.
But the suspect efforts of Koch, as well as the 1988 world 100m and 200m records of Florence Griffiths-Joyner and the 1983 800m time set by Jarmila Kratochvílová will also go. No woman has got close to those marks in the three decades since they were established.
However more recent world records, including those created by Usain Bolt in the sprints will stand because the holders have satisfied the drug testing and drug storage criteria.
A slew of suspect world records - including Marita Koch’s astounding 400m mark set in Canberra more than three decades ago - are to be wiped from the record books under a sweeping proposal considered by the world athletics body the IAAF.
The radical move, which has to be approved by officials later in the year, is meant to restore some credibility to the world records, but will result in the wiping of some other records considered above suspicion.
There are 12 men’s world records in Olympic events, and 18 women’s records in Olympic events (all outdoors) that would be culled under the plan.
Other pre-2005 world records for indoor events and non-Olympic events will also be “recalibrated”.
World record holding British athletes, Paula Radcliffe and triple jumper Jonathan Edwards have hit out at the plan. Edwards said he had always anticipated losing his world record leap of 18.29m but not to a sporting administrator.
Radcliffe, who set the marathon world record in 2003 said she was hurt by the move and felt it would damage her reputation and dignity.
She said: ’’It is a heavy handed way to wipe out some really suspicious records in a cowardly way by simply sweeping all aside instead of having the guts to take the legal plunge and wipe any record that would be found in a court of law to have been illegally assisted.’’
The move comes after the European Athletics Association proposed the changes to put to the IAAF at its meeting in August.
Svein Arne Hansen, the European Athletics president, said world records “are meaningless if people don’t really believe them”.
IAAF president Sebastian Coe said: “There will be athletes, current record holders, who will feel that the history we are recalibrating will take something away from them, but if organised and structured properly we have a good chance of winning back credibility in this area.’’
Under the plan world record holders will have had to have been drug tested at least six times in the months before setting the world record and the drug sample taken at the competition where the record was set must be stored and available for retesting.
It means all records set before 2005 - the year that the IAAF first started storing samples - will only be considered on the all-time lists and not recognised as being the world records.
The move will wipe some of the most enduring and memorable athletics moments from the record books, including long jumper Mike Powell’s leap of 8.95m in 1991 that usurped Bob Beamon’s high altitude mark; and Hicham El Guerrouj’s 1500m time of 3min 26.00sec he set in Rome in 1998.
But the suspect efforts of Koch, as well as the 1988 world 100m and 200m records of Florence Griffiths-Joyner and the 1983 800m time set by Jarmila Kratochvílová will also go. No woman has got close to those marks in the three decades since they were established.
However more recent world records, including those created by Usain Bolt in the sprints will stand because the holders have satisfied the drug testing and drug storage criteria.
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Crazy idea.
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Happy to see Flo-Jo's blood boosted records go. She was ridiculously superhuman on the gear.
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So if the record was set at the Olympics, you will keep the medal but the record will be deleted.
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Keep the record
* it as not meeting 2017 drug testing requirements
* it as not meeting 2017 drug testing requirements
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2 hour marathon attempt is coming down to the wire. Looks like he's going to miss it be a few seconds.
https://twitter.com/i/live/847926495850840064?cp=uscs_twit_05/05/17_nikerunning_breaking2_cs_ma575
https://twitter.com/i/live/847926495850840064?cp=uscs_twit_05/05/17_nikerunning_breaking2_cs_ma575
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Ridiculous run by Almaz Ayana in the women's 10000. Went with 16 laps to go. Lapped half the field. Won by more than half a lap (46 seconds) ahead of the first chase group.
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Gatlin wins the 100m. Bolt looks like he's finished third in his last individual race.
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Well, we don't always get fairytale endings to great sporting careers and that was more in the Bradman category... what a shame it had to be the cheat Gatlin who spoiled the party though. Credit to the crowd for their reaction, none at all to the BBC team for refusing to use the "C" word (or "cheat" either ) Would have been a bit more fitting had the young pretender Coleman taken it, in a changing of the guard moment.
I reckon we'll see him back in a couple of years if people are still winning titles with 9.9's though. Tonight's winning time wouldn't have got a medal in most recent finals.
Athletics has massively failed to capitalise on having the biggest star in global sport for the past decade, not helped by all the doping scandals, and now finds itself at a real crossroads, the risk is that it fades into a "once every four years" sport in the public consciousness.
I reckon we'll see him back in a couple of years if people are still winning titles with 9.9's though. Tonight's winning time wouldn't have got a medal in most recent finals.
Athletics has massively failed to capitalise on having the biggest star in global sport for the past decade, not helped by all the doping scandals, and now finds itself at a real crossroads, the risk is that it fades into a "once every four years" sport in the public consciousness.
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Aye, sad that convicted cheat Gatlin beat Bolt in his last race.
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At least Mo looks like going out on a high, one half of another double completed.
No Jess or Greg this time so British medals likely to be at a premium. KJT farked up the high jump (her best event) so is left fighting for scraps.
No Jess or Greg this time so British medals likely to be at a premium. KJT farked up the high jump (her best event) so is left fighting for scraps.
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It is time for a one strike and you're out policy. This guy cheated twice. It contaminates the whole scene.
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Think the current way is alright. Twice and gone. Unfortunately, they took the piss by not banning Gatlin after the second offence.
Contamination and legitimate medical reasons (think one of Gatlin's was for ADHD medication) are possibilities.
Similarly, paperwork filling which caught out Yoann Offredo whose whereabouts papers were filed but not processed at the tester's side leading to a ban. Or Simon Yates not filling his asthma medication prescription.
That, and the wada list gets updated every year. Previously legal drugs which become illegal and catch out players, a la Sharapova.
It also gives dopers a chance to amend their ways, unlikely as it is. Ivan Basso is reputed to have been clean on his comeback.
The problem really comes from sympathetic national ADAs and federations as Victor Conte mentioned in the following letter to Dwain Chambers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/athletics/7403158.stm
Back to the 100m, let's not ignore Christian Coleman. Looks a star in the making if he can avoid getting popped fit drugs. Nice story in the long jump as well with Manyonga completing his turnaround.
Contamination and legitimate medical reasons (think one of Gatlin's was for ADHD medication) are possibilities.
Similarly, paperwork filling which caught out Yoann Offredo whose whereabouts papers were filed but not processed at the tester's side leading to a ban. Or Simon Yates not filling his asthma medication prescription.
That, and the wada list gets updated every year. Previously legal drugs which become illegal and catch out players, a la Sharapova.
It also gives dopers a chance to amend their ways, unlikely as it is. Ivan Basso is reputed to have been clean on his comeback.
The problem really comes from sympathetic national ADAs and federations as Victor Conte mentioned in the following letter to Dwain Chambers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/athletics/7403158.stm
Back to the 100m, let's not ignore Christian Coleman. Looks a star in the making if he can avoid getting popped fit drugs. Nice story in the long jump as well with Manyonga completing his turnaround.
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Obviously there's a wide range of offences, from mild stimulants you can easily take by accident, to systematic steroid use over years. The latter is said to potentially still benefit an athlete years later, so even if Gatlin is technically running clean now, he may still be benefitting from what he did in the past. The fact he's still running at this level at 35 certainly raises questions, Bolt's only 30 so why doesn't he believe he can do the same?
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Gatlin's clearly a piss take. Can't be any other explanation for it...
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Also a piss take, these Kenyans running for Bahrain and Qatar...
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Laura Muir loses out on a medal in the last few strides.
Mo's going to be our only medallist in this whole championship, isn't he... maybe a relay bronze somewhere if they can get it around, but I think our other individual chances are just about done now.
Mo's going to be our only medallist in this whole championship, isn't he... maybe a relay bronze somewhere if they can get it around, but I think our other individual chances are just about done now.
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Great women's 1500 but the women's triple was nail biting.
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So how long before Guliyev is popped?
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When the novovirus which inflicted Makwala gets so serious that athletes have to advertise it to raise awareness.
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Shouldn't that be "-ota"?
Bien trouvé, Trike!
Bien trouvé, Trike!
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Schippers is some athlete. Power and grace.
Oh, and speed.
Oh, and speed.
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