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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Mon 03 Nov 2014, 12:26

S04E05

Spoiler:
Carrie employs the furry (or perhaps bald) magnet & a sob story about the father of her baby to win over Aayan, so much so that he admits to Carrie that his Uncle Haqqani is alive, but is ill (needing the drugs he was smuggling from University).

Meanwhile, Saul gets suckered by ISI & is drugged & bundled into a car that Haqqani is given a key to. Quinn & Fara follow the car (not knowing drugged Saul is in the boot) as he heads for Taliban mountain country. Quinn is pissed because he can’t get hold of Carrie to authorise a drone to follow him across the border. They have to turn back. Quinn later bad-mouths Carrie to her face for “farking a child” (I think he’s jealous), to which Carrie responds “I had 2 days to recruit him!!”

Meanwhile, the Ambassador’s husband, who ISI have by the short & curlies, is busy taking pics of Carrie’s pills & other stuff. The husband almost spills his guts in the bar to Carrie’s Kabul CIA offsider, John Redmond, but ISI’s is watching & distract him to stop the blabber. He’s sure to end up dead.

S04E06

Spoiler:
Carrie’s plan to get Aayan to lead the CIA to Haqqani works perfectly after they set up a fake ISI tail on him from a final visit to University, leaving Carrie pretending that their cover is blown & Aayan has no way out. He thinks quickly & says he could head for his Uncle Haqqani in the mountains as he has the money & resources to get him to London. Carrie gets roughed up & chucked into a van, leaving Aayan in no doubt that ISI have her.

Meanwhile the Ambassador’s husband spills to ISI that Carrie is bi-polar & that she set up a fake passport for Aayan.

Aayan manages to dodge some hurdles on his way to his Uncle’s & meets him in the mountains. The Kabul CIA Ops room is locked & loaded to take out Haqqani when they pull Saul out of the back of one of the trucks. Haqqani says Aayan has been double-crossed by the CIA & shoots him in the head, shocking Carrie. She angrily orders the shot to be taken on Haqqani, but Quinn tells the Ops room to stand down – “It’s Saul, for God’s sake!!!”.

So Haqqani is still on the run, they have Saul, and Carrie has lost her little bonky boy. Your move Carrie.
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Re: Homeland

Post by LeFromage on Tue 04 Nov 2014, 01:52

Spoiler:
The former director of the CIA - a mentor to all super spies that came after him - somehow managing to get himself kidnapped in broad daylight at a commercial airport was pretty ludicrous on its own.

The alcoholic husband of the American ambassador suddenly becoming a better spy than the CIA and ISI combined only added to the madness.

And now they won't "take the shot" because it's f*cking Saul? Get out of town. He'd be the first to advocate taking the shot. I know it's tele and they need to string out some kind of narrative and the actor's got a contract so there's a good chance of him defying the odds and being dramatically saved, but realistically, he's toast. Headless toast. Everyone must know it. He taught them well. And then forget his own teachings on how to not get kidnapped in the most laughably silly manner possible.

Take the f*cking shot, dickheads.
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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Tue 04 Nov 2014, 02:27

Spoiler:
Really?? You think Saul is toast? Fark that!! If so, I'm done.
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Re: Homeland

Post by LeFromage on Tue 04 Nov 2014, 15:17

In real life. In the show, who knows?
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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Tue 04 Nov 2014, 19:20

Fark real life. These shows are about the characters, and without certain characters, certain shows would certainly die in the arse, certainly from a ratings perspective, that's for certain.
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Re: Homeland

Post by LeFromage on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 01:32

I don't even know what to make of this week's episode...
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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 02:51

Urk, that's ominous. Shocked
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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 10:26

S04E07

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The one where Carrie goes psycho - AGAIN.

It seems Saul has the same value as ex-Presidents. Director Arsehole comes to Islamabad with a "get Saul back at all costs" directive, & threatens the Wackies with cutting off $2bill in aid if they don't help. The ambassador is royally shat off.

Meanwhile, the ambassador's hubby has replaced Carrie's bipolar meds with hallucinogens. She gets progressively panicky & freaky as the ep progresses.

Haqqani uses Saul as a human shield & prances around kissing his kids & rooting his wife(s) (1st time in 3 years apparently given the massive low profile he was forced to keep). Saul is taken to a cell on the Afghanistan border where Haqqani says he'll stay until Afghanistan is retaken.

On a lead on a nurse who may know what Haqqani's drugs are, Carrie barges into a hospital & harasses Aayan's girl. She then imagines Quinn is trying to restrain her. She beats the shit out of the dude. After hallucinating shooting some shadowy gents, the cops grab her. She's taken to a house where she believes she encounters Brody, who she hangs onto for dear life. It is really the Pakster intelligence officer Aasar Khan.

Decent acting effort by Danes, but she's done crazy before. Let's hope this isn't prolonged for too long.
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Re: Homeland

Post by LeFromage on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 17:33

Yeah, Claire Danes smashed the bejesus out of the acting, but I can't make my mind up if it was a good episode or the biggest load of hackneyed toss I've seen in a while.

Spoiler:
The unintentional comedy of Haqqani shagging his wife and the camera pulling back to reveal a miserable Saul having to sit there and watch (and not even have his hands free to crack one off), and Mr Ambassador's Husband, Amateur International Super-spy once again outfoxing the professionals by hiding behind a door were my stand out lowlights/highlights/can't decide.
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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 20:21

Haqqani's wife looked in good shape for a lass who's plopped out a big litter. Maybe this was another of the haram??
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Re: Homeland

Post by spangler on Thu 13 Nov 2014, 13:45

watching the C4 broadcast which is a couple of weeks behind

seems an improvement on the largely boring 3rd season.
Spoiler:
Carrie has just f*cked Pi. I was a little aroused
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Re: Homeland

Post by LeFromage on Thu 13 Nov 2014, 17:26

Oh, is he the Life of Pi guy? You learn something new every day.

He got some Pi all right...
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Re: Homeland

Post by horace on Fri 14 Nov 2014, 00:21

Dello wrote:Oh, is he the Life of Pi guy? You learn something new every day.

He got some Pi all right...

all square it seems
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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Tue 18 Nov 2014, 05:09

S04E08 - pretty good.

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The one where Saul gets away, but Carrie allows his recapture.

Carrie, post Brody hallucination, realises she was drugged & fronts Aasar Khan about it. He swears it wasn't him.

During a Haqqani video feed to the Embassy involving Saul, the former CIA director (after telling the US to tell the Taliban to go fark 'emselves re: using him as a pawn) manages to snag a nail, which he uses to free himself, fake a hanging, kill the panicked guard & escape.

Saul contacts Carrie & they tell him to go to a local town where they have an asset. Saul demands Carrie promise him "escape or die". Carrie promises.

Prior to an Embassy meeting with the Paksters, Aasar sees the Ambassador's husband talking with Tasneem, & twigs that he's the Embassy "breach" & she's up to no good.

During the meeting with Paksters, Carrie is surprised they don't look worried about the loss of Saul. Carrie realises that's because they know where Saul is headed, thanks to the drone hovering over the town. She & Lockhart leave the meeting. The town is soon swarming with Taliban & Saul knows it. He sits in a courtyard & puts the pistol that the local asset gave him to his head. Carrie begs him not to do it & convinces him they can "thread the needle" out. Carrie sends him straight into the hands of Taliban. Carrie hangs up to Saul's screams of "you farkin lied to me!!!".

Lockhart goes back to the Embassy meeting & agrees to all Taliban demands.

Carrie gets a call & meets Aasar, who seems to be a good guy, & tells her the breach is Dennis Boyd, the Ambassador's husband.
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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Tue 25 Nov 2014, 10:41

S04E09 - tense episode. Sorry, needed some light relief from the Phil Hughes darkness. No

Spoiler:
Basically all about the prisoner exchange (5 Taliban for 1 Saul). Very tense stand-off at a Pakster airport with a kiddie with a suicide vest shadowing Saul as insurance. Carrie sensed something was up, but couldn't quite work it out. The convoy blows up (a blast that you just knew was coming - an IUD?) on the way to the Embassy, and Senator Arsehole order ALL the Marines out to assist. Locked up Dennis Boyd, who has been grilled by Carrie & the Ambassador as the leak, asks his wife if all the Marines are gone, & spills that was what Tasneem wanted, because he had told her Carrie got in & out of the Embassy by tunnel.

Ep ends with Haqqani & Taliban muscle making their way through Carrie's tunnel to the Embassy.

I wonder how Carrie & Saul get out of this one?
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Re: Homeland

Post by LeFromage on Tue 25 Nov 2014, 17:34

skully wrote:S04E09 - tense episode. Sorry, needed some light relief from the Phil Hughes darkness. No

Spoiler:
Basically all about the prisoner exchange (5 Taliban for 1 Saul). Very tense stand-off at a Pakster airport with a kiddie with a suicide vest shadowing Saul as insurance. Carrie sensed something was up, but couldn't quite work it out. The convoy blows up (a blast that you just knew was coming - an IUD?) on the way to the Embassy, and Senator Arsehole order ALL the Marines out to assist. Locked up Dennis Boyd, who has been grilled by Carrie & the Ambassador as the leak, asks his wife if all the Marines are gone, & spills that was what Tasneem wanted, because he had told her Carrie got in & out of the Embassy by tunnel.

Ep ends with Haqqani & Taliban muscle making their way through Carrie's tunnel to the Embassy.

I wonder how Carrie & Saul get out of this one?

The episode was going well...

Spoiler:
... until it turned improbably stupid at the end. Oh, it was all the world's most elaborate plan to storm the American embassy via the conveniently unguarded secret tunnel. Good thing Lockhart decided to send ALL the Marines to the site of the convoy explosion. Not some. Not a shitload. Every single one of them. Because that makes perfect sense.

Come on.

Carrie, Saul and that other guy, Redmond, were all in same vehicle, so there's zero chance of there being no survivors otherwise there's no show. Unless Quinn and his fatty fetish is going to carry it from this point forward. Redmond is the most disposable, so you'd imagine if someone's been irreparably exploded, it'll be him.

No Homeland next week, apparently, due to Thanksf*ckinggiving. Back on Dec 7th.

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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Tue 25 Nov 2014, 19:55

A fair analysis, D.
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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Tue 09 Dec 2014, 09:41

S04E10

Spoiler:
2 paced ep, with the 1st half fast moving with lots of dead bodies, then a slow second half as the Yanks wandered about aimlessly in defeat - except for Quinn.

As predicted by Dello, John is dead in the attacked convoy, with a big shard of glass in the neck, while Carrie & Saul survived. They get pinned down by Taliban sniper fire so Carrie barks a WTF phone call to Aasar. He is about to send in the Pakster troops when Tasneem politely demands he wait 10 minutes. He realises she is working with Haqqani.

That 10 minutes wait is enough for Haqqani & his men to reach the heart of the Embassy via Carrie's tunnel. Hensley sends Lockhart to "the Vault" with the list of network assets that the Taliban desperately wants. Most of the CIA ops are killed but those alive, including Fara & Max are lined up outside the Vault to get Lockhart out with the list. Director Arsehole caves after they pop a few off then Haqqani holds a blade to Fara's throat. She still cops a knife in the back when the list is handed over.

By this time Quinn & a single Marine have killed their way through a hoard of terrorists to Haqqani's position & wound him as the invaders scarper like startled rabbits. But a wounded Haqqani & the list blow up the tunnel & are gone.

The Prez cuts ties with Pak & orders everyone out. Quinn says fark that & launches a one-man plan to get the list back. We last see him with one of Haqqani's men that he has nabbed, two of Haqqani's phones & a pile of torture gear.

The jailed Ambassador's husband talks her into giving him a belt to allow him to hang himself, but he's too pissweak to do it. She seethes at him as he's evacuated. Would've like to see her kick him in the qunt.

Lockhart allows Carrie 5 days to help extract Quinn.
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Re: Homeland

Post by vilkrang on Tue 09 Dec 2014, 10:15

I gave up on Homeland in S3. If it wasn't for the most relentlessly irritating and hammy performances by Claire Danes I would love it, but seeing as she is the star of the show it's a bit difficult to avoid.

Does she get any less annoying? Or is she still crying 76 times per episode?

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Re: Homeland

Post by LeFromage on Tue 09 Dec 2014, 17:23

skully wrote:S04E10

Spoiler:
2 paced ep, with the 1st half fast moving with lots of dead bodies, then a slow second half as the Yanks wandered about aimlessly in defeat - except for Quinn.

As predicted by Dello, John is dead in the attacked convoy, with a big shard of glass in the neck, while Carrie & Saul survived. They get pinned down by Taliban sniper fire so Carrie barks a WTF phone call to Aasar. He is about to send in the Pakster troops when Tasneem politely demands he wait 10 minutes. He realises she is working with Haqqani.

That 10 minutes wait is enough for Haqqani & his men to reach the heart of the Embassy via Carrie's tunnel. Hensley sends Lockhart to "the Vault" with the list of network assets that the Taliban desperately wants. Most of the CIA ops are killed but those alive, including Fara & Max are lined up outside the Vault to get Lockhart out with the list. Director Arsehole caves after they pop a few off then Haqqani holds a blade to Fara's throat. She still cops a knife in the back when the list is handed over.

By this time Quinn & a single Marine have killed their way through a hoard of terrorists to Haqqani's position & wound him as the invaders scarper like startled rabbits. But a wounded Haqqani & the list blow up the tunnel & are gone.

The Prez cuts ties with Pak & orders everyone out. Quinn says fark that & launches a one-man plan to get the list back. We last see him with one of Haqqani's men that he has nabbed, two of Haqqani's phones & a pile of torture gear.

The jailed Ambassador's husband talks her into giving him a belt to allow him to hang himself, but he's too pissweak to do it. She seethes at him as he's evacuated. Would've like to see her kick him in the qunt.

Lockhart allows Carrie 5 days to help extract Quinn.

The most 24-y episode of Homeland yet.

Spoiler:
Not that I don't like 24, but that's a big, dumb show that only works if you don't think about it. Homeland started out seeming to aspire for more. The first half of this episode was cartoonish, which is a shame as the aftermath of the attack was more in keeping with what the show used to be about: a broken Saul blaming himself, Carrie actually giving Lockhart a pass for his lack of backbone ("it was a tough call"), the odd scene between the Ambassador and her husband where she agrees to aid his suicide without so much as saying goodbye - and then he bottles it.

And now Quinn's gone rogue.

Vale, Fara. I don't know what you did, but you were mightily pretty in doing it. In fact, you remained mightily pretty even as a corpse. That was some serious CILF action going on.

I looked the actress up to see if she'd perhaps left because she got another show and it turns out she's an ex-member of the church of Scientology who had been "auditioned" by the high ranking overlords to be Tom Cruise's third wife, only to be punished when she wasn't compliant with the process and forced to clean toilets with a toothbrush. She left the cult soon after.

Katie Holmes got the gig in the end.

So, a knife in the back doesn't seem quite so bad now.
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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Tue 09 Dec 2014, 21:27

CILF!! Laughing applause

Homeland S1 & 2 was excellent, but it's been tosh ever since (although S4 has been better than the awful S3). Still, I'll stick it out till the end of the season. I can't imagine there'll be a S5.
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Re: Homeland

Post by LeFromage on Tue 09 Dec 2014, 22:05

skully wrote:CILF!! Laughing applause


I'm pretty sure that's what Max was contemplating on the steps, before Carrie sat down and he had instead accuse her of being a big meany to lovely Fara.
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Re: Homeland

Post by vilkrang on Tue 09 Dec 2014, 22:23

skully wrote:CILF!! Laughing applause

Homeland S1 & 2 was excellent, but it's been tosh ever since (although S4 has been better than the awful S3). Still, I'll stick it out till the end of the season. I can't imagine there'll be a S5.
Aye Skulls, I really enjoyed S1 and S2 despite Claire Danes but I couldn't get in to S3.

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Re: Homeland

Post by skully on Mon 15 Dec 2014, 22:05

S04E11. Twist.

Spoiler:
Basically Carrie getting in Quinn's way as he tries to blow up Haqqani, with a twist at the end.

Carrie tracks Quinn as he uses an ex-root German embassy chickie to help him set up a bombing of Haqqani, whose Islamabad location she has traced via the two phones Quinn snared from Taliban flunkies. Quinn works with Aayan's girlfriend to set up a student protest near Haqqani's location as cover to place a remote detonating pipe bomb in a road grate.

All goes well until Carrie joins the protest looking for Quinn and deliberately or accidentally (??) stops near the placed bomb. Quinn calls her and says what the fark. He is tempted to blow her up with the departing Haqqani, but he balks.

As a security diversion, Aasar has sent in a counter pro-Haqqani rent-a-crowd, which makes the arrogant Haqqani stand up through his sun roof and wave at the "adoring masses". Carrie sees her chance and is about to pop him in the back when Aasar runs up, grabs her and points out the figure in the back of Haqqani's car.

It's Dar Adal. Just WTF has he been up to?
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Re: Homeland

Post by LeFromage on Mon 15 Dec 2014, 23:26

A setting-up episode for the finale. Bit meh with an extra eh? at the end.

Spoiler:
A sad bit of filler having Carrie's sister report on their dad's death - the actor passed away before the season began filming, I think, after a long battle with cancer. At least it reminded us that Carrie has a kid, again. I'd forgotten all about that.
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