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Post by WideWally on Sat 08 Mar 2014, 04:46

Lankan Rupee has again shown that he is currently Australia's best sprinter with a brilliant win in the Newmarket Handicap.

His form since being gelded has been outstanding. Possibly this could be tried to get Michael Clarke back among the runs on a consistent basis.
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Post by WideWally on Sat 08 Mar 2014, 13:22

Roy Higgins passed away earlier today.

http://www.sportsfan.com.au/roy-higgins-has-died-aged-75/tabid/91/newsid/125194/default.aspx
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Re: The Horse Racing Thread

Post by Merlin on Tue 11 Mar 2014, 09:30

Day ONE (of four) at CHELTENHAM today folks . . .
 
Supreme Novices Hurdle
The Champion Hurdle
The Arkle Chase
The National Hunt Chase  
 
119 horses in 7 races . . .so many to choose from, checking the form will take a couple of hours !!
 
My pick  - My Tent or Yours in the Champion Hurdle

Oooo . . . my giddy aunt!!
 
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Post by Merlin on Wed 12 Mar 2014, 08:50

My Tent or Yours beaten a neck by Jezki in a great race which sadly saw the demise of Our Conner who broke his back when falling at the 4th last.
 
Today is the Queen Mother Champion Chase  . . . Sire de Grugy is a worthy favourite but I like Captain Conan at 5's.
 
133 horses run in todays' 7 races - expect BIG SP prices on the winners!
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Post by horace on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 00:18

time to ban jumps racing....even the bills and spivs have banned it in Oz...debate rages in Vic, Sa and Tas the only states where it is still allowed...

I expect the poms will be the last - as it will with fox hunting -

the upper class twits starting with the absurd royals will dig in on this issue
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Post by taipan on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 03:25

horace wrote:time to ban jumps racing....even the bills and spivs have banned it in Oz...debate rages in Vic, Sa and Tas the only states where it is still allowed...

I expect the poms will be the last - as it will with fox hunting -

the upper class twits starting with the absurd royals will dig in on this issue

Um, fox Hunting is banned in Englaand whilst still legal in Aus.

Another epic failure.
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Post by G.Wood on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 05:21

He's wrong too. The Spivs and Billies haven't banned jump racing at all. They just don't hold jumps races because there aren't any jumps horses in those states. Economics rather than animal welfare
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Post by horace on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 05:30

G.Wood wrote:He's wrong too.  The Spivs and Billies haven't banned jump racing at all.  They just don't hold jumps races because there aren't any jumps horses in those states.  Economics rather than animal welfare

really?
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Post by taipan on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 05:42

G.Wood wrote:He's wrong too.  The Spivs and Billies haven't banned jump racing at all.  They just don't hold jumps races because there aren't any jumps horses in those states.  Economics rather than animal welfare

So apart from being wrong on his two major points, the post was fairly accurate.
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Post by G.Wood on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 05:48

"I expect the poms will be last"

That part seemed ok
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Post by taipan on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 05:49

The post was almost Kartesian in its basically rightness.
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Post by horace on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 06:03

was that the definite or indefinite Kartickle...there has been a long running campaign to ban jumps racing (inc from some within the industry)...'spose I should have realised banjos and spivs would have had reasons other than a distaste for jumps
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Post by Merlin on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 09:01

horace wrote:time to ban jumps racing....even the bills and spivs have banned it in Oz...debate rages in Vic, Sa and Tas the only states where it is still allowed...

I expect the poms will be the last - as it will with fox hunting -

the upper class twits starting with the absurd royals will dig in on this issue

Horrie - you really are steeped in self-derranged horseshit.
FYI - flat racing in the UK is what the (so called) upper class and royals support.
Jumps racing is what farmers, the Irish and common folk appreciate.
Fact: There is no greater spectacle than watching horses attack a 6 feet high fence at 30 mph over 3 miles.
They love it, the jocks love it and the folk that support jumps racing it all love it.

And yep, the Poms will be the last - as will it be for fox hunting.
Long may that continue.

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Post by Merlin on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 09:18

Third Day - Cheltenham.
 
Sire de Grugy duly obliged in the Champion Chase - winning by 5 lengths - going away up the hill. Fantastic achievement.
 
Today 106 horses run over the 6 races - with three massive 24 horse field handicaps!

The 11 year old Big Bucks (having missed last year) is back to defend his World Hurdle crown
(he won it 5 years on the bounce) . . . the young Irish pretender, 6 year old Annie Power,
is his biggest challenge. A great race to watch rather than wager on.

Menorah has finally got his Good ground and should run well in the Ryan Air Chase at 2.40.
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Post by taipan on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 09:25

Merlin wrote:
horace wrote:time to ban jumps racing....even the bills and spivs have banned it in Oz...debate rages in Vic, Sa and Tas the only states where it is still allowed...

I expect the poms will be the last - as it will with fox hunting -

the upper class twits starting with the absurd royals will dig in on this issue

Horrie - you really are steeped in self-derranged horseshit.
FYI - flat racing in the UK is what the (so called) upper class and royals support.
Jumps racing is what farmers, the Irish and common folk appreciate.
Fact: There is no greater spectacle than watching horses attack a 6 feet high fence at 30 mph over 3 miles.
They love it, the jocks love it and the folk that support jumps racing it all love it.

And yep, the Poms will be the last - as will it be for fox hunting.
Long may that continue.


A horrickle?
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Post by taipan on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 09:29

Merlin wrote:
horace wrote:time to ban jumps racing....even the bills and spivs have banned it in Oz...debate rages in Vic, Sa and Tas the only states where it is still allowed...

I expect the poms will be the last - as it will with fox hunting -

the upper class twits starting with the absurd royals will dig in on this issue

Horrie - you really are steeped in self-derranged horseshit.



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Post by Basil on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 19:14

AP could have had the Champion and World Hurdles under his belt if he had chosen horses differently.
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Post by Merlin on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 19:47

Basil wrote:AP could have had the Champion and World Hurdles under his belt if he had chosen horses differently.
Absolutely!
First choice jock for the guvnor JP - chooses wrong in both races  - and to add insult to injury, just gets beaten by a whisker in both!
Still - bearing in mind what he's been going through with his 3 y o son Archie having just undergone a
cardiac operation, I guess choosing the wrong 'uns to ride is the least of his worries.
 
Menorah faded badly (unusual for him - something must be amiss) - and poor old Big Bucks got beaten into 5th . . . age catching up (11 years young) - I'd imagine that the Stewarts will retire the old fella now . . . he's more than earned a good long retirement.
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Post by horace on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 00:20

jumps here is for horses that are too slow for the flat...the trainers and hoops are in a marginal economy..

the last natural jumper I saw was Crisp (2nd twice to red rum in your GA)...there is a continuing fatality rate in the jumps that hurts the wider industry...

I have racing in my family and grew up with it...there are many in racing here that would prefer to see it end.
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Post by Merlin on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 10:36

I wouldn't dream of taking you on in a discussion on the merits of Jumps racing horrie - save to say that, over here, the puritan townie folk abhor the countryside pursuits of jumps racing and realistic farming - it really is as simple as that. The mawkish drivel from Townies regarding thoroughbred horses and their wellbeing is reflected in their refrain from believing that beef comes from slaughtered cows and mutton/lamb from slaughtered wee baby lambs/sheep - and further, that chickens on the Tesco superstore shelves came vaccuum packed and were not in fact alive before presenting themselves for eating . . . however, they will nevertheless, tuck into beef stroganof, lamb casserole and roast chicken on a Sunday without a thought of the previous lives of the consumed .... I trust you get the point.

It really is that farcical.
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Post by Merlin on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 10:45

Today is Gold Cup Day where 80,000 plus humans and 151 horses will attend prestbury Park.
 
Bobs Worth is a worthy favourite - but I'm not so sure he will win it twice on the bounce. Silviano Conti will certainly give him a good run for his money . . . but,  The Giant Bolster (twice before finishing in the frame) has a realistic chance at much better odds (12/1) - so an EW bet for me.
 
Elsewhere, Guitar Pete in the Triumph Hurdle and Champagne West in the Albert Bartlett catch the eye . . .
 
And so the greatest jumping show on earth will be brought to an end - which will, tragically, have seen 3 out of the 600 horses competing die and one, the 11 year old Big Bucks finally retire to a life of luxury in the sun after his immense contributons over the past 8 years.
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Post by Basil on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 12:26

horace wrote:jumps here is for horses that are too slow for the flat...the trainers and hoops are in a marginal economy..

the last natural jumper I saw was Crisp (2nd twice to red rum in your GA)...there is a continuing fatality rate in the jumps that hurts the wider industry...

I have racing in my family and grew up with it...there are many in racing here that would prefer to see it end.

You should know then that horses die on the flat as well.

Jump racing (and the Grand National in particular) went through a sticky period here when there were a number of fatalities in the National. The construction of the fences has been altered and last year's race was casualty-free.
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Post by Merlin on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 21:21

And so  - the final day . . .
 
Bobs Worth and Sylviano Conti just burned out on the run up the hill to the post . . . and the Gold Cup (3M4F) went to the brave  Fort Windemere who tailed the field the entire distance except for the final quarter mile when he powered home ahead of On His Own and the gallant Giant Bolster - forever, it appears, to be the bridesmaid! Even his jock, the brave Davy Russell claimed he thought of pulling Fort Windemere up, the horse was so disinterested in running ! Just as well he didn't - that was some storming finish!
 
Guitar Pete came 3rd in his race and Champagne West 4th in his.. . . so all in all, a good day for YT - 5  placed horses at big each ways odds on a £1 yankee accumulator will certanly buy a few beers for the rest of the year !!
 
The irony on this last day was not the "damage" to the horses, but to the jockeys!  Champ Ruby Walsh was jettisoned from his mount in the first race and has been stood down for the rest of the season. AP McCoy fell yesterday and was limping badly today; Brian Cooper sustained a severe compound fracture of his leg (broken in three places) after coming down off his mount - but the cruellest of all was that of Daryl Jacob - an honest jock that wears his heart on his sleeve - having won the second race on Lac Fontana for champion trainer Paul Nicholls, he was cantering down to the start for the third race, literally 20 minutes after his previous glory, when his horse Port Melon got spooked and jinked into the rails dumping him (at speed) onto the tarmac beside the course and causing him to dislocate his hip! So that's Walsh, Cooper, Jacob and McNamara out for the season, with McCoy missing 2 weeks.
 
Who said this wasn't a fair spectacle?!

And so on to the Grand National meeting in a fortnight at Aintree . . . the final spectacle . . . roll on!
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Post by Ethics? The Gall! on Sat 15 Mar 2014, 09:23

taipan wrote:
horace wrote:time to ban jumps racing....even the bills and spivs have banned it in Oz...debate rages in Vic, Sa and Tas the only states where it is still allowed...

I expect the poms will be the last - as it will with fox hunting -

the upper class twits starting with the absurd royals will dig in on this issue

Um, fox Hunting is banned in Englaand whilst still legal in Aus.

Another epic failure.
of course its legal here you ****** ignorant ******
foxes are introduced vermin in this country and it should be legal to destroy them any way you can
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Post by taipan on Sat 15 Mar 2014, 09:48

Ethics? The Gall! wrote:
taipan wrote:
horace wrote:time to ban jumps racing....even the bills and spivs have banned it in Oz...debate rages in Vic, Sa and Tas the only states where it is still allowed...

I expect the poms will be the last - as it will with fox hunting -

the upper class twits starting with the absurd royals will dig in on this issue

Um, fox Hunting is banned in Englaand whilst still legal in Aus.

Another epic failure.
of course its legal here you ****** ignorant ******
foxes are introduced vermin in this country and it should be legal to destroy them any way you can

Er, is that aimed at me or horrie?
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