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Post by embee Thu 04 Jun 2015, 06:12

Oz Offies (10+ Test wickets)


Player Span Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts Ave Econ SR 5 10
H Trumble 1890-1904 32 57 8099 3072 141 21.78 2.27 57.4 9 3
NM Lyon 2011-2015 40 77 9389 4938 139 35.52 3.15 67.5 7 1
AA Mallett 1968-1980 38 71 9990 3940 132 29.84 2.36 75.6 6 1
B Yardley 1978-1983 33 58 8909 3986 126 31.63 2.68 70.7 6 1
IWG Johnson 1946-1956 45 74 8780 3182 109 29.19 2.17 80.5 3 0
GE Palmer 1880-1886 17 30 4517 1678 78 21.51 2.22 57.9 6 2
TBA May 1987-1995 24 45 6577 2606 75 34.74 2.37 87.6 3 0
NM Hauritz 2004-2010 17 33 4200 2204 63 34.98 3.14 66.6 2 0
GRJ Matthews 1983-1993 33 47 6271 2942 61 48.22 2.81 102.8 2 1
RM Cowper 1964-1968 27 36 3005 1139 36 31.63 2.27 83.4 0 0
TR Veivers 1963-1967 21 31 4191 1375 33 41.66 1.96 127 0 0
PL Taylor 1987-1991 13 21 2227 1068 27 39.55 2.87 82.4 1 0
DD Blackie 1928-1929 3 5 1260 444 14 31.71 2.11 90 1 0
MJ North 2009-2010 21 19 1258 591 14 42.21 2.81 89.8 1 0
JJ Krejza 2008-2008 2 4 743 562 13 43.23 4.53 57.1 1 1
GR Robertson 1998-1998 4 7 898 515 13 39.61 3.44 69 0 0
JW Trumble 1885-1886 7 6 600 222 10 22.2 2.22 60 0 0

Are John Trumble's stats the 12th man's favourite?
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Post by taipan Thu 04 Jun 2015, 06:31

So offspin is not one of Aus's strengths.
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Post by horace Thu 04 Jun 2015, 06:35

what sticks out is the average...it has been the power of NSP persistence that has given him the chance to break the record....still a fine achievement

Mallet and Ian Johnson are standouts and Roo Yardley too in a skill/discipline few Australians have excelled at.
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Post by Ethics? The Gall! Thu 04 Jun 2015, 07:08

hes a long way from being the worst offie weve ever had. bit of a character too but in a good way
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Post by horace Thu 04 Jun 2015, 07:13

he is certainly a better offie than Greg Matthews
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Post by embee Thu 04 Jun 2015, 07:20

He's the second best test cricketer who has a brother I have umpired ...
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Post by JGK Thu 04 Jun 2015, 07:54

embee wrote:He's the second best test cricketer who has a brother I have umpired ...


Who's the third best?

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Post by JGK Thu 04 Jun 2015, 07:56

horace wrote:what sticks out is the average...it has been the power of NSP persistence that has given him the chance to break the record....still a fine achievement

Mallet and Ian Johnson are standouts and Roo Yardley too in a skill/discipline few Australians have excelled at.


Big Hugh is still our greatest finger spinner by a long shot. Two test hat tricks as well.

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Post by skully Thu 04 Jun 2015, 08:03

Ethics? The Gall! wrote:hes a long way from being the worst offie weve ever had.  bit of a character too but in a good way
horace wrote:he is certainly a better offie than Greg Matthews

Aye x 2. Go Elmer.
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Post by horace Thu 04 Jun 2015, 08:05

agree...was thinking post WW2

seeing Cowper on the list reminded me of all the players who retired so they could make a living. Had forgotten he was a more than useful off spinner
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 04 Jun 2015, 08:41

Where's Colin Miller?
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Post by JGK Thu 04 Jun 2015, 09:16

Brass Monkey wrote:Where's Colin Miller?


Good point - he might be listed as a medium pacer given that's how he started his career.

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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 04 Jun 2015, 09:18

Best I've seen by quite some distance.
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Post by embee Thu 04 Jun 2015, 10:44

Brass Monkey wrote:Where's Colin Miller?


18 34 4091 1805 69 5/32 10/113 26.15 2.64 59.2 2 3

total test stats for funky
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Post by Guest Thu 04 Jun 2015, 12:53

Brass Monkey wrote:Best I've seen by quite some distance.
F*ck about, how old are you?

Edit: Okay, he's not as old as I thought. His last test was just before I got properly in to cricket.

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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 04 Jun 2015, 13:10

vilkrang wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:Best I've seen by quite some distance.
F*ck about, how old are you?

Edit: Okay, he's not as old as I thought. His last test was just before I got properly in to cricket.

I started young. Watching the home Tests from about '88, highlights of the away Tests. Had cable from '94ish. They were televising all sorts of non-England Tests from about '96. Other people had consoles, I had weed and hours of Test cricket.
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Post by taipan Thu 04 Jun 2015, 13:15

Brass Monkey wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:Best I've seen by quite some distance.
F*ck about, how old are you?

Edit: Okay, he's not as old as I thought. His last test was just before I got properly in to cricket.

I started young. Watching the home Tests from about '88, highlights of the away Tests. Had cable from '94ish. They were televising all sorts of non-England Tests from about '96. Other people had consoles, I had weed and hours of Test cricket.

Now I'm feeling old.
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Post by JGK Thu 04 Jun 2015, 13:24

Brass Monkey wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:Best I've seen by quite some distance.
F*ck about, how old are you?

Edit: Okay, he's not as old as I thought. His last test was just before I got properly in to cricket.

I started young. Watching the home Tests from about '88, highlights of the away Tests. Had cable from '94ish. They were televising all sorts of non-England Tests from about '96. Other people had consoles, I had weed and hours of Test cricket.

Perfect upbringing.

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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 04 Jun 2015, 13:43

taipan wrote:

Now I'm feeling old.

You should've felt old when the match reports you used to read had sketches instead of photos.
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 04 Jun 2015, 13:49

JGK wrote:

Perfect upbringing.

Yeah, I enjoyed - loved both from my first dealings with them. They go hand in hand.
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Post by taipan Thu 04 Jun 2015, 13:54

Brass Monkey wrote:
taipan wrote:

Now I'm feeling old.

You should've felt old when the match reports you used to read had sketches instead of photos.

Close Dan. The first series I remember was Eng/Pak in 1967.
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Post by Guest Thu 04 Jun 2015, 14:40

Brass Monkey wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:Best I've seen by quite some distance.
F*ck about, how old are you?

Edit: Okay, he's not as old as I thought. His last test was just before I got properly in to cricket.

I started young. Watching the home Tests from about '88, highlights of the away Tests. Had cable from '94ish. They were televising all sorts of non-England Tests from about '96. Other people had consoles, I had weed and hours of Test cricket.
First test series I remember seeing was when my Dad had a series against the Windies in the early 90s on the tele. He started taking me to see Northants when I was 12 but I wasn't massively in to it. I remember Mark Butcher scoring that century to chase 315 in 2001 which sparked my interest a little but it was the series against South Africa in 2003 that I couldn't take my eyes off, watched almost every session and haven't looked back since.

Which is weird because the first couple of sessions was basically Smith battering us and doing the same in the next test. Not sure why that made me keep watching but we came back well which was perhaps what inspired me to give this test cricket lark a go.

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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 04 Jun 2015, 14:47

taipan wrote:

Close Dan. The first series I remember was Eng/Pak in 1967.

Ouch. I wonder if anyone on FB can go lower/higher
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Post by embee Thu 04 Jun 2015, 14:59

WW complained about the lack of Billies in the 1877 game
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 04 Jun 2015, 15:28

vilkrang wrote:
First test series I remember seeing was when my Dad had a series against the Windies in the early 90s on the tele. He started taking me to see Northants when I was 12 but I wasn't massively in to it. I remember Mark Butcher scoring that century to chase 315 in 2001 which sparked my interest a little but it was the series against South Africa in 2003 that I couldn't take my eyes off, watched almost every session and haven't looked back since.

Which is weird because the first couple of sessions was basically Smith battering us and doing the same in the next test. Not sure why that made me keep watching but we came back well which was perhaps what inspired me to give this test cricket lark a go.

I think my dad's early enthusiasm started my interest - we got battered by WI - but was inspired by them really - Macko was devastating, Ambrose, Walsh, Winston Benjamin - I didn't really remember who was who, I barely even remember it - my dad triggered it off the other year, I just remember them being demonic and us being feeble
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