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Post by Basil on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 06:17

You're starting this a bit early aren't you?

Well, MCC have announced their side to play Middlesex already.

All the other English forummers have just about farked off - you'll be talking to yourself

I do that anyway mate.
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Re: English Domestic Season 2017

Post by Basil on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 06:23

The full MCC team for the 2017 Champion County match is:

Haseeb Hameed (Lancashire, England)
Tom Alsop (Hampshire, England Lions)
Sam Northeast © (Kent)
Ben Duckett (Northamptonshire, England)
Joe Clarke (Worcestershire, England Lions)
Ben Cox (Worcestershire)
Lewis Gregory (Somerset, England Lions)
Matt Coles (Kent, England Lions)
Matt Fisher (Yorkshire, England U19)
Mason Crane (Hampshire)
Jack Leach (Somerset)

I think we can assume that concerns over Leach's action have been satisfied. Good to see two Worcs. players in there.

I assume Matt Coles is there because we're short of piss-head numpties.
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Post by lardbucket on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 07:23

Wasn't Lewis Gregory Trevved 7-8 years ago?

Was Jack Leach ("not good enough for Indian tour") chosen so that he can be 'called' in an MCC game?

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Post by Basil on Tue 31 Jan 2017, 07:40

lardbucket wrote:Wasn't Lewis Gregory Trevved 7-8 years ago?

Was Jack Leach ("not good enough for Indian tour") chosen so that he can be 'called' in an MCC game?

Chris Rogers said last year that he didn't think that leach was temperamentally ready for test cricket. Perhaps the truth was that his action gets a bit shonky when he's nervous.

As for Lewis Gregory - more than likely: him and every other decent prospect for the last ten years or so!
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Post by Basil on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 07:32

Detailed plans for the ECB’s new Twenty20 competition can be revealed today after a briefing memo sent to county executives was seen by The Times.

The revolutionary tournament, set to start in 2020, aims to create an English league that will rival the Indian Premier League and Australia’s Big Bash League (BBL), but has caused controversy among the counties. The eight-page document confirms that:● Eight teams will have 15-man squads that include three overseas stars, with 13 of those players picked during a draft that the ECB hopes will be televised. The two other players in each squad will be picked as “wild cards” after the NatWest T20 Blast has been played.● All county cricketers, plus overseas players who enter themselves, will be put into the draft unless they request not to be. They will be placed into different salary bands.● The tournament will run from mid-July, after the conclusion of the T20 Blast and alongside a 50-over competition.

Despite the outline of the competition, there is no mention of where the eight teams might be based, an issue that is likely to cause ructions as some counties will miss out on hosting matches. Hosting decisions will not be taken until at least the end of March.

A number of county chiefs had expressed concern over the original proposal that the eight teams would be solely owned by the ECB. In an effort to alleviate some of those worries, the latest proposal about the governance of the competition is that the eight sides would be separate legal entities, but each will be controlled by two to three first-class counties. So for example, a team based in Nottingham may be controlled by Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire.

Head coaches and directors of cricket from counties who work in the new tournament will not be permitted to coach at their local county venue. The memo explains that this is borne out of a desire that the proposed competition is not a facilitator for player movement from smaller counties to the larger Test-venue counties.

Coaches and support staff from county cricket will be eligible to work in the new competition should their counties be happy to release them.

Each of the eight teams will be allocated the same fixed budget for players, a separate budget to cover coaching costs and a salary cap similar to the one in place in the BBL.

Originally the ECB had hoped that players would not play for the team at their “home” club so that each new team would have a totally separate identity from the county side based at that venue. However, this was a bone of contention among some of the larger counties, who did not wish to see all their star players based at other venues, so the ECB has rowed back on this proposal.

Teams will be able to call up players from the county 50-over competition in case of injuries and, similarly, players can be released back to the county 50-over competition should their coaches in the new T20 competition want them to play competitive cricket. It is anticipated that players would be released by their counties to join the new team squad not more than a week before the T20 competition begins and would be given back to their counties as soon as their team are eliminated.

Players will be signed on an initial one-year contract with an option to extend for a second year. A proportion of a player’s existing county salary will be deducted if he plays in the new competition and it is anticipated that the salary from taking part will more than make up for any shortfall in his county salary.

The new competition will be played over 38 days — England players will not be available, as Tests will be played at the same time. There will be 36 games, rather than the 35 expected initially. This is because there will not be semi- finals. The finalists will be decided on the results of three play-off games. The team who finish top of the table will play against the second-placed team in “the qualifier” for a place in the final. The third and fourth-placed teams will play each other in “the eliminator”. The winner of the eliminator and loser of the qualifier will then go head to head for the other spot in the final.

The memo sets out that each team will be run by an operations board comprising an independent chairman and chief executives from the two or three counties who control the team. The board will be in charge of appointing a general manager and coaches.

It is believed that the consultancy firm tasked with coming up with the venue options is not just looking at Test grounds for hosting and there is a potential move away from the competition being purely city-based, with some host teams having one or more of their four home group games at a second or third venue. Each first-class county will also receive a guaranteed minimum amount of revenue from the proceeds of the competition.

While the tournament is three years away, the ECB needs the details signed off before it puts the broadcast rights for this, international cricket and the other domestic competitions from 2020 onwards out to tender, which it wants to do at the end of next month.

The broadcast tender document will specify that a certain number of the matches — possibly ten — must be shown live on free-to-air television and that highlights and clips should be available on other digital outlets such as YouTube or Amazon Prime.
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Re: English Domestic Season 2017

Post by tricycle on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 15:43

"England players will not be available, as Tests will be played at the same time. "

Defeats half the purpose. Then again that hasn't held back the bish bosh.

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Post by taipan on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 16:46

So if I read this right, it will be run at the same time as a 50 overs county competition and England players will not be available.

They will need a hell of a lot of players.
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Post by Basil on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 18:38

taipan wrote:So if I read this right, it will be run at the same time as a 50 overs county competition and England players will not be available.

They will need a hell of a lot of players.

Looks like it. This is the ECB remember - foresight a luxury, not a necessity
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Re: English Domestic Season 2017

Post by Big Dog on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 18:43

So, there is going to be two major T20 tournaments?
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Re: English Domestic Season 2017

Post by Basil on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 18:49

This is all so unnecessary. Crowds for the existing T20 tournament are on the up, so why not build on that?

2 divisions with promotion and relegation would do the trick
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Post by Basil on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 18:50

Big Dog wrote:So, there is going to be two major T20 tournaments?

In the short-term yes. It's a recipe for disaster
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Post by taipan on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 18:51

Big Dog wrote:So, there is going to be two major T20 tournaments?

Looks like it. So t20, t50, FC and tests will be played simultaneously.

Early days, but I am calling this one already.
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Post by Big Dog on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 18:52

Basil wrote:
Big Dog wrote:So, there is going to be two major T20 tournaments?

In the short-term yes. It's a recipe for disaster

Aye. Seems like a bit of overkill.
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Re: English Domestic Season 2017

Post by taipan on Thu 09 Feb 2017, 18:57

Looks like a power play by the ECB to take over the county game. The 8 franchises will start playing FC with the test grounds as HQ's. The counties will be feeder teams for the franchise and complete in a lower tier competition.

It is based on the SA system.
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Post by Basil on Fri 10 Feb 2017, 05:20

taipan wrote:Looks like a power play by the ECB to take over the county game. The 8 franchises will start playing FC with the test grounds as HQ's. The counties will be feeder teams for the franchise and complete in a lower tier competition.

It is based on the SA system.

I fear you are right - aided and abetted by Sky methinks.
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Post by horace on Fri 10 Feb 2017, 07:29

taipan wrote:Looks like a power play by the ECB to take over the county game. The 8 franchises will start playing FC with the test grounds as HQ's. The counties will be feeder teams for the franchise and complete in a lower tier competition.

It is based on the SA system.

Has that worked for SA?
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Re: English Domestic Season 2017

Post by tricycle on Tue 28 Mar 2017, 01:50

A bit about the proposed twenty20 tournament.

https://www.ft.com/content/9220b274-0a38-11e7-97d1-5e720a26771b

And the crisis looming over Yorkshire
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/1088311.html

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Re: English Domestic Season 2017

Post by furriner on Tue 28 Mar 2017, 02:41

Just read Basil's update on the 20:20 thingie.  Assuming nothing's changed in the plan, it seems a tournament created by master bureaucrats without a clue.   Merging counties (so to speak), England players unavailable, complex rules that seem to defy explanation and, not the least,:

While the tournament is three years away.....

Seriously, all this planning, preparation and angst, and the thing is three years away? Laughing

Say what you will about the BCCI, at least the trains run on time.
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Re: English Domestic Season 2017

Post by PeterCS on Tue 28 Mar 2017, 09:30

Meanwhile, looks as if Soms/Yorks/+1or2 aka MCC are about to inflict the first defeat on Middlesex in the 4-day game since 2015.

Out in the cavernous stadium of AbbyDabby.
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Post by Henry on Tue 28 Mar 2017, 16:46

Crikey, the English season starts today with the County v University matches. It feels like it gets earlier every year.
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Post by PeterCS on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 04:12

PeterCS wrote:Meanwhile, looks as if Soms/Yorks/+1or2 aka MCC are about to inflict the first defeat on Middlesex in the 4-day game since 2015.

Out in the cavernous stadium of AbbyDabby.

Or not. One wicket in it!
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Post by Big Dog on Mon 03 Apr 2017, 18:08

Should'nt this be Rikki'd by now?
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Re: English Domestic Season 2017

Post by Basil on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 05:39

Bastard Bears are tying to poach Moeen. Article by George Dobell on Cricinfo says that they are going to give Worcs. 28 days' notice of an approach. One fly in the ointment I've spotted is that Moeen is actually contracted to us until the end of the 2018 season.
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Post by Basil on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 16:56

Leicestershire have been docked 16 points for some bad language and an obscene gesture used by Charlie Shreck in their match against Loughborough University. Skipper Mark (where's the nearest pie-shop) Cosgrove also picks up a one match ban.
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Post by PeterCS on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 21:38

Basil wrote:Bastard Bears are tying to poach Moeen. Article by George Dobell on Cricinfo says that they are going to give Worcs. 28 days' notice of an approach. One fly in the ointment I've spotted is that Moeen is actually contracted to us until the end of the 2018 season.

Maybe Mo is homesick for Bastard Brum?
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