Re: *The United States Presidential Election * (III)

by JGK Sat 21 Jan 2017, 22:55

OK, now I know the speech writers were taking the piss:

Trump:

"We are one nation, and their pain is our pain. Their dreams are our dreams. And their success will be our success. We share one heart, one home, and one glorious destiny."

Barry B Benson, the protagonist from the 2007 animated film Bee Movie:

"We are one colony - and their pain is our pain. Their dreams are our dreams; and their success will be our success. We share one heart, one hive and one glorious destiny."

by JGK Sat 21 Jan 2017, 23:02

JGK wrote:
lardbucket wrote:
JGK wrote:OK so I've now had a decent listen to the speech. Apparently his minders praised him for spending so much time on it himself, getting it just right.

If that's the case the God help us all as The Donald would seem to be illiterate. WTF does this mean for instance?

And whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of Detroit or the windswept plains of Nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of life by the same almighty Creator.

Apparently* it's stolen from Avatar.

It seems Trump drew inspiration from Hollywood blockbuster Avatar, where the identical lines were delivered by Colonel Miles Quaritch in 2009.

“And whether a (human) child is born on Earth or in the space colonies or the minswept planet of Kabuska, they look up at the same stars, they fill their lives with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of conquest by the same almighty Creator.”

He and Melanie are a perfect match after all.

There is also this:

https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/822495850899374080

How good is the * in apparently*? Seems that there is no such quote in Avatar. I'm still checking re the Bee Movie.

by JGK Sat 21 Jan 2017, 23:05

Dammit...

http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2017/01/21/26676/did_donald_trump_really_quote_the_bee_movie%3F

by Growler Sun 22 Jan 2017, 00:46

Big Dog wrote:
skully wrote:Hehehe. Makes you wonder how he won in the first place. Bit of an indictment on Hillary.

More of an indictment on the US voting system. If there was compulsory voting like here i have no doubt Clinton would have won.

Thing against compulsory voting, Big Dog, is it's a bit like compulsory shopping. Why should you be forced to choose between tinned spaghetti & tinned tomatoes when you actually want baked beans? In that scenario, if you can't buy what you want, you walk out with your cash still in your pocket.

skulls, you shouldn't wonder how he won ....... for all his faults, Trump didn't say outright (or even insinuate) that anyone who even thought of voting for Hillary was either mentally retarded, or had some kind of character defect. That's exactly what Hillary and the mainstream media did to virtually all America bar California and New York. Had the Democrats made the case against Trump without the personal insults tagged on ......... many more would have stayed home on polling day - to HRC s advantage.

You'll never persuade anyone to your side by insulting them.

by Basil Sun 22 Jan 2017, 05:14

Growler wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
skully wrote:Hehehe. Makes you wonder how he won in the first place. Bit of an indictment on Hillary.

More of an indictment on the US voting system. If there was compulsory voting like here i have no doubt Clinton would have won.

Thing against compulsory voting, Big Dog, is it's a bit like compulsory shopping. Why should you be forced to choose between tinned spaghetti & tinned tomatoes when you actually want baked beans? In that scenario, if you can't buy what you want, you walk out with your cash still in your pocket.

skulls, you shouldn't wonder how he won ....... for all his faults, Trump didn't say outright (or even insinuate) that anyone who even thought of voting for Hillary was either mentally retarded, or had some kind of character defect. That's exactly what Hillary and the mainstream media did to virtually all America bar California and New York. Had the Democrats made the case against Trump without the personal insults tagged on ......... many more would have stayed home on polling day - to HRC s advantage.

You'll never persuade anyone to your side by insulting them.

And had the Democrat candidate been anyone other than Hilary............

by Growler Sun 22 Jan 2017, 07:15

Quite right Basil ........ my first comment on this election was late October (p36 if you're interested). Anyone but Hillary would have told the media to back off the retard/racist/misogynist etc etc comments, and let the Donald kill off his own prospects.

Did you watch the link, buddy? Mr Gowdy summed up the principle perfectly ...... call somebody a thick qunt simply because they disagree, and your chances of convincing them they're wrong are somewhere between zero and ****** all.

Yes, many on the right are pretty unsavoury, I'll willingly admit ..... but so are some on the left. The difference is that too many on the left hurl too many personal insults, and I'm thoroughly convinced they do more harm than good to their own cause.

by lardbucket Sun 22 Jan 2017, 08:25

Apparently* this thread now demonstrates the best ever forum use of 'apparently*'

by embee Sun 22 Jan 2017, 21:59

by horace Mon 23 Jan 2017, 08:46

"Alternative Facts" - early nomination for the top new phrase in the English language for 2017. The phrase is being used by Trump staffers when they or Trump utter what is proved to be and means, " Outright Lie".

by lardbucket Mon 23 Jan 2017, 09:41

Get used to it. Calling it now - worse than Nixon. Factor of ten.

by Henry Mon 23 Jan 2017, 09:50

Really quite disturbing that they used their very first day in office to spout obvious lies about how big the inauguration crowds were, with Conway's "alternative facts" line a jaw-dropper, and then the press secretary delivered an angry, confrontational statement to the media purely based on the size of the inauguration crowds, and then refused to take questions.

Like yeah...way to get off on the right foot Rolling Eyes

They must be pissing themselves laughing in Russia and China.

by skully Mon 23 Jan 2017, 10:49

by Fred Nerk Mon 23 Jan 2017, 11:49

Henry wrote:Really quite disturbing that they used their very first day in office to spout obvious lies about how big the inauguration crowds were, with Conway's "alternative facts" line a jaw-dropper, and then the press secretary delivered an angry, confrontational statement to the media purely based on the size of the inauguration crowds, and then refused to take questions.

Like yeah...way to get off on the right foot

They must be pissing themselves laughing in Russia and China.

Still playing to the same peanut gallery.....when is he going to realise he now has a country to run and WGAF how many of the other kids turned up to his party?

by skully Mon 23 Jan 2017, 11:58

He is basically a schoolyard bully. If someone has a go at him, he yells loudly about what losers they are.

by Bradman Mon 23 Jan 2017, 12:38

I watched that first WH briefing live. The press coverage didn't do it justice. You can probably you tube it. You will find yourself saying "WTF" repeatedly. I then went to the pub.

by embee Mon 23 Jan 2017, 13:05

by embee Mon 23 Jan 2017, 13:12

JGK wrote:Guess which one is Trump's inauguration crowd and guess which one is Obama's.

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by Big Dog Mon 23 Jan 2017, 17:20

horace wrote:"Alternative Facts" - early nomination for the top new phrase in the English language for 2017. The phrase is being used by Trump staffers when they or Trump utter what is proved to be and means, " Outright Lie".

I suspect every stand up comic in America is positively salivating at the wealth of material that is going to be offered up to them for the next four years.

by horace Mon 23 Jan 2017, 17:38

Aye. There will no shortage of hilarious jokes pmsl moments. However I keep remembering Dr Strangelove and the good ole boy riding the nuke to his and our doom.

by JGK Mon 23 Jan 2017, 18:22

Big Dog wrote:
horace wrote:"Alternative Facts" - early nomination for the top new phrase in the English language for 2017. The phrase is being used by Trump staffers when they or Trump utter what is proved to be and means, " Outright Lie".

I suspect every stand up comic in America is positively salivating at the wealth of material that is going to be offered up to them for the next four years.

Except that it's all going to be like shooting fish in a barrel. Hopefully professional pride will drive some to be a bit cleverer.

by taipan Mon 23 Jan 2017, 18:48

JGK wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
horace wrote:"Alternative Facts" - early nomination for the top new phrase in the English language for 2017. The phrase is being used by Trump staffers when they or Trump utter what is proved to be and means, " Outright Lie".

I suspect every stand up comic in America is positively salivating at the wealth of material that is going to be offered up to them for the next four years.

Except that it's all going to be like shooting fish in a barrel. Hopefully professional pride will drive some to be a bit cleverer.

Aye, it would be like taking the piss out of George W.

by Fred Nerk Mon 23 Jan 2017, 19:39

I just hope it stays a laughing matter

by JGK Wed 25 Jan 2017, 14:51

PMSL:

Fred Nile denied visa for Donald Trump inauguration, deemed a 'security threat'

James Robertson

Eighty-two-year-old conservative Christian MP the Reverend Fred Nile has been called many things in his time in public life, but last week was the first time he was deemed a threat to international security.

Mr Nile MLC, the longest-serving member of the NSW Parliament, says both he and his wife, Silvana Nero, were last week denied entry to the United States because they were told they presented an unspecified security risk.

Mr Nile said he had booked travel to the US after being invited to attend the inauguration of President Donald Trump on January 20.

"No explanations or reasons were given," said Mr Nile, the founder of the Christian Democratic Party.
"The only suspicion I have is that someone in the Obama machine said, 'We're not going to help this guy.' That's my gut feeling, but then again who would bother about me?"

Mr Nile said he was baffled by the ruling.

He noted that he made several trips to the US between 1966 and 2015 and is a member of an American-Australian parliamentary friendship group.

There are many reasons visitors can be denied entry to the US, including having ties to criminal or terrorist organisations.

In 2015, Mr Nile called for the public to donate to the Assyrian Christian Militia, a group devoted to fighting ISIS in northern Iraq after meeting members of the group in Sydney. He denied that call violated prohibitions against Australians to fight or provide funding to either side of the armed conflict in Syria or Iraq.

"They're seeking to defend their towns and villages; they need our prayers and support," he said in a 2015 interview with 6PR a radio station owned by Fairfax Media.

"A Christian militia is not a terrorist organisation. It's a defensive [outfit]. They're Christians not Muslim terrorists."

He said he was invited to Mr Trump's inauguration after striking up an email relationship with the new leader of the free world.

"Weeks and weeks ago I had an email from Mr Trump," he said.

"I got quite carried away. I sent back a detailed email giving him my friendly advice.

"[I said] he ought to be very careful selecting his cabinet ... as he had no experience in politics or defence.

"That [advice] was gratefully received."

Australians can usually enter the US after filling in a request under a visa waiver program but may be told to make applications for a full visa, as Mr Nile was.

Under new regulations, travellers who have visited Iran, Iraq, Syria and Sudan are also ineligible for entry under the visa waiver program and must be present for an interview.

But Mr Nile said his only recent trip to the Middle East had been a tour of Israel.

A spokesman for the US consulate said it could not comment on any individual visa cases, citing reasons of privacy.

"We have no comment on his statement," the spokesman said.

by skully Wed 25 Jan 2017, 16:35

That's funny. Laughing

by skully Wed 25 Jan 2017, 16:43

Speaking of funny, imagine having this poor qunt's job, defending Trump's jibberings for the next 4 years...

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