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Post by beamer on Sun 09 Jul 2017, 15:54

Looked like a straightforward mistake to me... Martin must have been behind him in order to be the one who was collected as he spun back across the road?

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Post by taipan on Sun 09 Jul 2017, 15:55

I agree, looked like a rider error to me, but analysis will give the true story
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Post by taipan on Sun 09 Jul 2017, 16:10

Great stage apart from the crashes. Hopefully everyone is okay.
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Post by beamer on Sun 09 Jul 2017, 16:21

Yeah, an epic stage, even the winner was initially called incorrectly...

Probably over as a contest unless Froome has any major mishap though, nobody really troubled him though Aru is still within touching distance on the clock - a number of GC contenders taken out either fully or effectively today, so expect the time gaps to start opening up as Sky find it easier to control the next mountain stages.

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Post by tricycle on Sun 09 Jul 2017, 18:45

Re-surfacing the road post the Dauphine was stupid. But not too many crashed. It wasn't impossible to race on.

"Itís so slippery and I guess the organisers got what they wanted. I donít think anyone wanted to take risks there, but it was so slippery under the trees. Richie locked up his back wheel, went straight into the grass, just wiped out, and his bike just collected me. I had nowhere to go,Ē Martin said after crossing the line in Chambery.

If thats the case, then an error on Porte's part. Can't brake much on wet roads....


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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by beamer on Sun 09 Jul 2017, 19:33

Reminiscent of seeing Beloki lying in the road that time, when he who must not be named avoided being brought down by cutting the hairpin bend through a ploughed field... a different type of descent crash but both were a sudden, brutal end to the Tour for a leading contender for podium at the very least. The Spaniard never got back to the very top again, hope it's not so career altering for Porte.

I wonder if anyone will feel they can challenge Froome now, I know he lost a key domestique himself today and gained no meaningful time but he just looked so in control, the other remaining GC men might just leave him to do his own thing and try to cover each other off for podium places.

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Post by Big Dog on Sun 09 Jul 2017, 22:30

Being reported that Porte has a fractured collarbone & pelvis but doesnt need surgery.
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by taipan on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 05:02

I see FDJ lost an additional 3 riders trying to support Demare.
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Post by taipan on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 05:08

tricycle wrote:
beamer wrote:Well, certainly very crash-prone, can you put it all down to bad luck when it's happened so often?

Fair. He's almost perfected it these days. Hopefully this crapulent season will result in him not ****** around with grand tour GCs and focus on classics again.

Apparently he was taken down by Majka. The motorcycle incident in the Giro was hardly his fault.
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Post by tricycle on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 07:56

True, but he has crashed in almost all of his major targets for 3-4 years now, from San Remo to here. Maybe he's just not good at avoiding crashes.

Regarding the classics, I think he has potential to be top 3 -5 there. And he was bloody good in 2014 or so. Grand tours, less so.

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Post by Big Dog on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 08:22

Dan Martin, the rider that Porte brought down took a swipe at race organisers over the incident. Nice to see Froome tweeted condolences for both Thomas & Porte.

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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Big Dog on Tue 11 Jul 2017, 08:07

....and, back to the sprinters.

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Post by tricycle on Wed 12 Jul 2017, 04:55

Been a boring race apart from 2 stages (not dissimilar to the Giro). The fear of Sagan and Froome dominating has led to this cack route.

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Post by Big Dog on Wed 12 Jul 2017, 08:11

HoHum...another sprinters benefit.

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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by beamer on Wed 12 Jul 2017, 19:36

tricycle wrote:Been a boring race apart from 2 stages (not dissimilar to the Giro). The fear of Sagan and Froome dominating has led to this cack route.
Yeah, seems they've put all these boring flat stages in to create a contest for green, as there were too many "Sagan stages" in recent years so the out-and-out sprinters had no chance of the jersey. Ironically due to his exit they've just handed it to Kittel as long as he gets around.

Normally the sprinters largely own week 1 then they have to decide if they can be arsed to drag themselves through the big mountains for perhaps one more shot at a win before the Champs-Elysees. The likes of Cipollini, Petacchi and at times Cavendish generally didn't bother.

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Post by tricycle on Wed 12 Jul 2017, 21:00

We've had one hilly stage, 3 mountain stages (counting belles files as one), and a TT. Almost a mirror image of the giro. A close GC can't make up for this turgidity.

Kittel might be keeping an eye on maertens' stage 8 record.

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Post by Big Dog on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 08:33

So now we enter the Pyrenees. What a shame Porte is gone. This stage was made for him. As it is i think Froome will extend his lead.

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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by embee on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 08:53

"What a shame Porte is gone"

soft tozzie
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Big Dog on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 09:07

embee wrote:"What a shame Porte is gone"

soft tozzie

Soft?...Don't see many WA cyclists on the world tour.
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by taipan on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 09:36

Big Dog wrote:So now we enter the Pyrenees. What a shame Porte is gone. This stage was made for him. As it is i think Froome will extend his lead.


You mean there are no downhills? Twisted Evil
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by tricycle on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 12:39

Big Dog wrote:
embee wrote:"What a shame Porte is gone"

soft tozzie

Soft?...Don't see many WA cyclists on the world tour.
Durbridge is from WA isn't he?

Not sure about Haas, but he came through the same team as Porte which was Tasmania based (Praties in Porte's time, Genesys when Haas was there)

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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by taipan on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 16:06

Slight crack from Froome.
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Big Dog on Thu 13 Jul 2017, 23:12

Probably not a bad thing for Froome to surrender the yellow jersey at this point. It will take some pressure off & he is still only six seconds behind.
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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by tricycle on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 03:32

Good for the race too. Unfortunately, there was officiating farce yesterday with Uran and Benett being handed 20 second penalties for accepting water in the last few kms (20km is the nearest point to accept food/water). Bardet, who did exactly the same thing, got away with no penalty.

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Re: Le Tour de Pharmaceutical 2017

Post by Big Dog on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 07:33

tricycle wrote:Good for the race too. Unfortunately, there was officiating farce yesterday with Uran and Benett being handed 20 second penalties for accepting water in the last few kms (20km is the nearest point to accept food/water). Bardet, who did exactly the same thing, got away with no penalty.

Well, he IS French afterall.
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