England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

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England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by Basil on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 21:08

England's squad:

Morgan
Moeen
Bairstow
Ball
Billings
Duckett
Finn
Hales
Plunkett
Rashid
Root
Roy
Willey
Wood

Even this squad is fairly predictable, given that Woakes, Stokes and Buttler are filing their bank balances in the IPL. Should be too much for Ireland - but you never know!
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by PeterCS on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 23:40

Where is Batty?
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by tricycle on Wed 26 Apr 2017, 02:33

Preparing for the tests.

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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by skully on Wed 03 May 2017, 12:38

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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by PeterCS on Wed 03 May 2017, 20:51

So, going to Lord's on Sunday. Weather allowing.

Wish us luck few pissed oafs keep standing up, fists & feet splayed, bawling "patriotic" chants and other calls of the oaf.

As for the real issue ... banana skin potential: 75%.
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by Big Dog on Fri 05 May 2017, 08:25

Decisions decisions. What to watch tonight. Poms v Micks or the Giro. Looks like a bit of channel surfing will be in order.
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by tricycle on Fri 05 May 2017, 14:20

Straightforward win for England after a decent start by Stirling and Joyce.

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Post by Big Dog on Fri 05 May 2017, 22:35

tricycle wrote:Straightforward win for England after a decent start by Stirling and Joyce.

Aye. Disappointing effort by Ireland after a bright start.
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by Basil on Fri 05 May 2017, 23:40

Ireland clearly can't play spin for toffee
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by Basil on Sun 07 May 2017, 17:34

England appear to be heading towards a fairly comfortable win. Ireland are really not much more than a decent county side. Joyce in his pomp was better than that but his best days are behind him.
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by Basil on Sun 07 May 2017, 17:45

This is going to bite me on the arse!
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by horace on Sun 07 May 2017, 20:17

Pretty easy win in the end
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by skully on Sun 07 May 2017, 23:53

A sweep to England!!!
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by horace on Mon 08 May 2017, 01:09

skully wrote:A sweep to England!!!

Expect JGK to be plonking a motza on Pomgolia to win the Chumps Trophy.
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by horace on Mon 08 May 2017, 01:13

and Mudge to return 'Trevving' it up.
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by lardbucket on Mon 08 May 2017, 02:32

PeterCS wrote:So, going to Lord's on Sunday. Weather allowing.

Wish us luck few pissed oafs keep standing up, fists & feet splayed, bawling "patriotic" chants and other calls of the oaf.

As for the real issue ... banana skin potential: 75%.

So how was it? More cricket than lager louts?

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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by PeterCS on Mon 08 May 2017, 15:33

Good day out. And about the same timing as a Test match, which is pleasantly traditional in times of day-nights, 2 or 10 o'clock starts and truncated matches.

It started out bitter cold though. Hat and gloves, to start. By mid-afternoon, sunblock time. Weirdworld.

Barking Yobbo intrusions? - only a bit, in the last hour, when the wine talked amongst a dozen celebrants in front of us in the Edrich stand. Yes, these were privileged Hooray Henry types. (Lord's, you know. Strictly better-class yohhhhhh behaviour.) And at least it was strictly 7-y-o party noise, rather than, say, RUUUUULE FARRRRAAAAAAGE!!! Nothing directly nationalist about it. I've heard worse. Overall crowd okay. Quite a lot of Irish support, which was good to see. Only one self-publicising leprechaun bellowing in a green jacket and bowler, as far as I could hear. His wife looked miserable. Kitted out similarly, but not enjoying it.

A few match impressions. Underwhelmed by England's openers. Hales scores a fair number of runs, but again seemed very hit-and-biff. Rustic is a kind word. Roy started to look like a player once his partner had departed, completely missing a Murtagh castler through a horrible gate. (Roy seems to look technically a better player once he's not partnered with Biffo bears?) But then started a trend among three or four other England batsmen of picking out the fielder with pinpoint accuracy: like catching practice. Their only hope was that the fielder would duck having a cricket ball whacked down their throat.

For all that, Root methodically got on with it, and Morgan showed all his speed and famous wristiness after a nervous start (high stakes for him - I had to laugh when Roy went and a very Dublin voice went up from behind us: "BRING ON JUDAS!" "Thankfully more joshingly than in a red-eyed bellow. Same guy later shouted: "Okay okay - we'll take the draw, lads.")

Bairstow and - perhaps surprisingly, for me anyway - Rashid were the best batsmen. I agree, easier once a base had been laid down. But "Yorkshire singles" and twos out of ones, lots of those. And brisk, businesslike, with well judged big hits alternating with dropping the bat on it and scampering judiciously.

Murtagh remains good to very good, a great asset to Ireland. (He must be around 40, is he?) The other Irish bowlers seemed more "good county pro" - they kept at it, decent quality, but I am a bit worried for their respurces if they gain Test status. Maybe it will be the making of the game in Ireland, "the wrong way round". In other words, once the opportunity is there, people and resources will be attracted to it. But that takes time. See Bangladesh.

England bowling. Unimpressed by Willey on the day. Kept serving it up, on a plate, to the plucky and not unskilful veteran Sterling. And no great pace to trouble him either. Wood was little better in his first spell. Whether cold at first, or working out his way back into international cricket, or whatever, he seemed average - at first. He does know how to clip bails, though - his second spell was back where Wood should be. Ball also a bit meh at first, too picnic for Sterling. Tightened up (in the good sense) when he came back. Root was okay bowling, he'll face greater tests (and Tests), but he keeps a good nerve: even when whacked for 6, he is likely to nip the batsmen out in the next couple of balls as almost anyone. Rashid wasn't grooving it at all. The other end of his spectrum from Bristol. But then - leggies ...

Outstanding was Plunkett. I'd forgotten both his height and his arm speed - that late whirl that can get even the best batsmen in a whirl. And his pace is very decent. I'd broadly estimate 82-92 mph (varying). To me, even before he took a couple more wickets in his second spell, he was EASILY man of the match (Root got the award, which is obvious given his all-round performance and results.) When the other quicks were getting creamed, they couldn't get him away - accurate, fast and yet not wild-fast - and a constant threat to wickets. I think he conceded one boundary, a thick edge with no slip in place, by the #11, when it was all but done and dusted. If this is his standard, he'd be in my Test team. Ireland had some decent batsmen - Porterfield was a revelation, I had him down as a poor man's Tavare, but he took all but one of England's bowlers by the scruff of the neck and despatched them - but Plunkett's bowling was world class.

Tip to anyone going to Lord's. Avoid St John's Wood tube after the match. Hop on a bus to Marble Arch or Oxford Circus (or best direction for you) and continue from a less dense junction!
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by Basil on Mon 08 May 2017, 18:54

Thanks for the write-up Pete. Willey must be vulnerable - I don't think he got a single ball off the straight in either game, and at his pace, that's a worry. Come to think of it, I don't think there was any movement through the air for the seamers.

Billings didn't advance his cause. Anyway, if a batting vacancy cropped up, it would be grotesque to overlook Bairstow.

Now for a sterner test!
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by horace on Tue 09 May 2017, 01:32

Great write up Basil. I really enjoyed it, esp the Irish sledge about Judas.
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by taipan on Tue 09 May 2017, 06:35

horace wrote:Great write up Basil. I really enjoyed it, esp the Irish sledge about Judas.

You can't tell them apart?
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by embee on Tue 09 May 2017, 07:13

He could have called him JC
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by taipan on Tue 09 May 2017, 07:32

embee wrote:He could have called him JC

Bit blasphemous
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by horace on Tue 09 May 2017, 12:09

taipan wrote:
embee wrote:He could have called him JC

Bit blasphemous

not much difference so far as I can judge.
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by PeterCS on Tue 09 May 2017, 12:57

Aye, Baz's write-up was interesting enough in places. I wish he'd cut out the parentheses though, and just give it straight.
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Re: England v Ireland, 2xODIs, 5-7 May, 2017

Post by PeterCS on Tue 09 May 2017, 13:06

I was wrong about the shamed wife.

It was a psychologically traumatised smallish child, on the seat behind. (Same orange trousers too - but had at least got rid of the green jacket.)

No wife in sight, at time of leprechaun sighting.



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