England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

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Post by skully on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 12:37

England getting bashed. SAf will be 500 in front well before Stumps.
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by JGK on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 12:38

Henry wrote:What a heroic saviour of English cricket Liam Dawson is.

Hash agrees with you.

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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by taipan on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 12:40

Elgar chucks it
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Post by horace on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 12:43

Henry wrote:What a heroic saviour of English cricket Liam Dawson is.

Bring back Monty.
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by skully on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 13:17

Useful double break by England before Lunch. Well bowled Ben Stokes and Jimmeh.

Still some batting to come, so the Poms will need to bowl and field well to keep the chase below 450.
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Post by taipan on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 13:20

Seems to be one of those wickets you are never fully "in" on.
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by Henry on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 14:06

South Africa already have enough runs.
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by PeterCS on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 16:33

England are the Cilic in this one.
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by Brass Monkey on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 16:58

Kin enda. So's I'm like hmmm, Jimbo's doing OK - he's dinging it down mid 80's and he's barely even said a cross word to the Siths. Then, I'm all like "I wonder what he's been doing the last few years, in summary" - turns out that since 2010 he's got 329 @ 25.31 and since 2014 he's got 137 @ 22.46.

Pretty mental for a past it f*ckface.

In other news, SA have got plenty. I'd declare now. We'll scrape 180-220.

Makes for a good series.

Liam Dawson though? Not in a month of Sundays. Not if I had to pick a cricketer named Liam to play for England, out of 20 Liams.

I'd prefer Les Dawson, Weekend At Bernie's style, even.
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Post by taipan on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 17:07

Time to put the foot down. No point in blocking it out now
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Post by Brass Monkey on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 17:13

taipan wrote:Time to put the foot down. No point in blocking it out now


Defo - there's no excuse in letting the game drift - they're in complete control and we've got our more wayward bowlers on.

Morris can go the tonk, so he should be doing
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Post by taipan on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 17:36

Morris now has a better average than Duminy.
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by Brass Monkey on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 17:42

434 ahead......... c'monnnnnnnn
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Post by taipan on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 18:06

I think the message has gone out
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by beamer on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 20:45

tricycle wrote:Compton's dropping was unnecessary. Couldn't score quickly, bet England will take anyone who can stay 10-15 overs now.
Don't forget he effectively fell on his sword second time around, announced he was taking a break from the game before he could be dropped. Definitely no way they would go back to him now.

Occupying the crease is fair enough, but he just looked frozen to the spot a lot of the time. You don't need to play rash shots, but you do need to give the opposition the impression that you have a way of keeping the scoreboard moving.

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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by skully on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 21:35

Geez, 2 days to get 470 or block it out for a manful draw. Nah - all over. Maharaj, the Prince of Spinners, to clean Engulund up.

Well done to the SAffers.
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by beamer on Mon 17 Jul 2017, 08:47

Haven't got around to changing my KP signature from a few years ago yet, but maybe it's still relevant... he and the Belf would surely offer more fight than this lot.

Still, he re-qualifies for the Yarps in January... who knows, next time the two sides meet!

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Post by Henry on Mon 17 Jul 2017, 08:59

The problem with this England side is that they think they're so much better than they really are. All I ever hear from them is "with this batting lineup, anything is possible, we have so much depth etc etc"......and yet time and time again we collapse like a pack of cards.

I think they take their supposed "depth" for granted, and it has bred an attitude of "not to worry if I get out, the next guy will save us" all the way down the batting order.
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by Nath on Mon 17 Jul 2017, 11:52

Ballance still crap? The new Hick/Ramprakash?
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by taipan on Mon 17 Jul 2017, 11:56

Nath wrote:Ballance still crap?  The new Hick/Ramprakash/Duminy?
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by taipan on Mon 17 Jul 2017, 12:17

England rooted.
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by Growler on Mon 17 Jul 2017, 12:38

Somehow, I don't think we're going to see a repeat of the famous clash between these sides 19 years ago on this ground.

That spell from Allan Donald when Athers refused to walk after gloving one but not being given out was one of the most hostile I can recall - there was real venom in every delivery. I'm not sure how some of todays England batsmen would fare - it isn't  that often any of them (Cook included) have faced a bowler of that speed and quality with his tail up.

That match, and the '95 Wanderers match remain two of the best I can recall in 40 odd years of following cricket.
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by taipan on Mon 17 Jul 2017, 12:43

Growler wrote:Somehow, I don't think we're going to see a repeat of the famous clash between these sides 19 years ago on this ground.

That spell from Allan Donald when Athers refused to walk after gloving one but not being given out was one of the most hostile I can recall - there was real venom in every delivery. I'm not sure how some of todays England batsmen would fare - it isn't  that often any of them (Cook included) have faced a bowler of that speed and quality with his tail up.

That match, and the '95 Wanderers match remain two of the best I can recall in 40 odd years of following cricket.

I can remember being at Centurion when Donald gave Steve Waugh a working over.

When Athers got 189*?
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Re: England v South Africa, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge, 14-18 July, 2017

Post by taipan on Mon 17 Jul 2017, 12:47

Morris dancing through the England top order.

And yes, it's bloody freezing here.
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Post by PeterCS on Mon 17 Jul 2017, 12:50

Good to see the Monkey around.

Excellent, in fact.
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