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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2017-18

Post by Bradman on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 04:36

If I was a betting man. Though even without a coconspirator Fred's right. If it's a plot it's way beyond steve's mental acuity despite being relatively simple.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2017-18

Post by skully on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 06:20

Decent article, as always from Geeves.

However horrie's assertion that Smith is the worst captain since Craig is laughable when you consider the likes of Yallop and Hughes.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2017-18

Post by horace on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 06:59

Yallop and Hughes had crap teams. This one is not. Seasick has presided over a loss to the Bangles and a series loss to SL. He seems void of leadership skills and the gcspoc has more acumen. Tho I am not a Snifty fan, Seasick was 'apparently' instrumental inn his sacking as well.
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Post by Big Dog on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 07:06

I have to agree with Horrie on this one. Great batsman but very average captain.
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Post by Bradman on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 07:13

Who can bat anywhere and if he were a decent leader would bat where he was most needed.
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Post by skully on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 07:30

horace wrote:Yallop and Hughes had crap teams. This one is not. Seasick has presided over a loss to the Bangles and a series loss to SL. He seems void of leadership skills and the gcspoc has more acumen. Tho I am not a Snifty fan, Seasick was 'apparently' instrumental inn his sacking as well.

Really?

Apart from Smith, Warner, Starc and Lyon (and maybe Purple) the rest are indeed crap in comparison to our teams of the past 25 years. We are struggling to find an opener, a no. 3/4 (depending on where Smith bats), a 5 and 6, a keeper and maybe a 3rd quick who can stay fit.

We are at our lowest rank (5th) in many, many moons. We ARE crap.
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Post by Bradman on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 07:36

Certainly compared to Waugh, ponting and sook he's not particularly blessed. He's still a crap captain.
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Post by JGK on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 07:43

Bradman wrote:Certainly compared to Waugh, ponting and sook he's not particularly blessed.  He's still a crap captain.


He doesn't want Maxwell in the team so he can't be all bad.

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Post by Bradman on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 07:46

Yeah but my son's goldfish could work that out. Maybe a reasonable point though.
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2017-18

Post by horace on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 08:29

JGK wrote:
Bradman wrote:Certainly compared to Waugh, ponting and sook he's not particularly blessed.  He's still a crap captain.


He doesn't want Maxwell in the team so he can't be all bad.

It was the influential Weed who x's out No Show.

While he is divisive, Weed is a successful captain, at Shield level.

Wrench and Sneaky Pete are good standard Test players that I'd add to Skully's list. I'd delete gcspoc from the list of decent players - outside Oz
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2017-18

Post by skully on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 08:55

JGK wrote:
Bradman wrote:Certainly compared to Waugh, ponting and sook he's not particularly blessed.  He's still a crap captain.


He doesn't want Maxwell in the team so he can't be all bad.

Word.

I didn't refute Smith's captaincy deficiencies, merely his ranking by horrie.

Yallop was the weakest man to ever take the helm of the Aus cricket side. Who can forget Kim Hughes shielding the cat from Bob Willis at Headingley. And he was scared shitless of Rodney Hogg, who did whatever he wanted when Yallop was skipper.
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Post by Bradman on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 10:57

Yallop was crap and probably a qunt but he didn't lose two ashes series.
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Post by skully on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 12:07

No, he was so shit in one, he was punted forever more.

Smiffy hasn't lost two Ashes series. He hasn't even been captain in an Ashes series. Are you referring to Punter?
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2017-18

Post by skully on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 12:13

Aus captaincy records

Based on this table, for all Aus captains with more than 3 games at the helm, the worst were Yallop and Hughes, with a shitty 14% victory record. Tweek's 50% is outstanding by comparison.

Of course, the greatest is the mighty Tugga, who won 72% of the 57 Tests he was in charge (that's basically winning 3 of every 4 Tests as skipper). What a ferkin legend. Stick that up your arse, h. Cool
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Post by Bradman on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 12:25

Should have said at least two so was referring to post ksr. My son's goldfish could've captained the side Waugh had.
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Post by horace on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 13:28

Aye ?my. Ksnr's selfishness and Kjnr were the weak links those days.
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Post by Bradman on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 16:40

Though his selfish century at the scg did provide a classic piece of commentary.
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Post by skully on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 23:03

horace wrote:Aye ?my. Ksnr's selfishness and Kjnr were the weak links those days.

72% victory rate says otherwise. tongue-out
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2017-18

Post by horace on Wed 25 Oct 2017, 23:04

Bradman wrote:Though his selfish century at the scg did provide a classic piece of commentary.

....and of course we lost that Test because he failed the next morning.
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Post by embee on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 00:11

skully wrote:
horace wrote:Aye ?my. Ksnr's selfishness and Kjnr were the weak links those days.

72% victory rate says otherwise. tongue-out

Not when qm4's goldfish would have had a 75% success rate
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2017-18

Post by Bradman on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 00:57

embee wrote:
skully wrote:
horace wrote:Aye ?my. Ksnr's selfishness and Kjnr were the weak links those days.

72% victory rate says otherwise. tongue-out

Not when qm4's goldfish would have had a 75% success rate

I am getting older
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Post by embee on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 01:36

your sons goldfish
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Post by embee on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 01:39

wozzies leave max out of their squad

dorf 'has insufficient bowling loads' to play a four day game

we dont need calls from seasick to stuff up selection
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2017-18

Post by skully on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 02:53

Klinger left out!!?? Geez, is this an age thing?
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Re: Australian Domestic Season 2017-18

Post by embee on Thu 26 Oct 2017, 03:02

too many test 'contenders' and team leaders

bangers
sos
hoss
puddle (C)
dozen(VC)
stoynarse

the verted wells is in the squad ...but hopefully they want him for his fielding rather than actually having him before maxie
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