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Post by skully on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 02:03

horace wrote:The Black ke seems a classic psychopath ..... Next career move is to work with Boris J.

Black ke??
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Post by Bradman on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 03:02

Yeah I don't have a clue what he's tallking about either.
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Post by skully on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 03:25

Blakey??

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Post by JGK on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 03:26

Bradman wrote:Yeah I don't have a clue what he's tallking about either.

This is surely not a new revelation.

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Post by skully on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 03:54

Maybe "Black ke" was a fat fingers attempt at "Bloke"???
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Post by Bradman on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 04:25

The lead actor in that series got a piece of it. Smart, smart man.
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Post by Growler on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 12:21

Bradman wrote:
skully wrote:Is affray a crime you can do time for in UK? Or is a good behaviour bond (1st offence and all that) the more likely outcome?

Affray needs a second person being a dickhead. †On the video evidence the dickhead with him wasn't being much of a dickhead.

It carries jail time but So does jaywalking.

Sorry Bradders, but you're wrong regarding affray. I posted this at the beginning of the year a few pages back.

Public Order Act 1986 provides this :-

"A person is guilty of affray if he uses or threatens unlawful violence towards another and his conduct is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety."

So any drunken cockwomble being a general arse-piece which frightens bystanders can, in theory, be charged. Unlikely now though, but still possible. Give it about 10 years, and it may not even be considered a real crime any more ..... it won't be the first.

Skulls, in theory, Stokes could face 3 years max in chokey - but since our justice system is so rubbish, I reckon he'll probably get a suspended sentence.
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Post by Bradman on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 12:28

Growls the Public Order Act specifies, Well didn't this replace the riot act?
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Post by Bradman on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 12:42

You might be right actually. Apols if thats the case. Though I think you might be reading.....fark it Stokes is a qunt So let them do their worst.

Id also Iike to say I think Warner's a qunt.
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Post by skully on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 12:55

Growler wrote:
Bradman wrote:
skully wrote:Is affray a crime you can do time for in UK? Or is a good behaviour bond (1st offence and all that) the more likely outcome?

Affray needs a second person being a dickhead. †On the video evidence the dickhead with him wasn't being much of a dickhead.

It carries jail time but So does jaywalking.

Sorry Bradders, but you're wrong regarding affray. I posted this at the beginning of the year a few pages back.

Public Order Act 1986 provides this :-

"A person is guilty of affray if he uses or threatens unlawful violence towards another and his conduct is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety."

So any drunken cockwomble being a general arse-piece which frightens bystanders can, in theory, be charged. Unlikely now though, but still possible. Give it about 10 years, and it may not even be considered a real crime any more ..... it won't be the first.

Skulls, in theory, Stokes could face 3 years max in chokey - but since our justice system is so rubbish, I reckon he'll probably get a suspended sentence.

Cheers Growls.
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Post by Bradman on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 13:00

You Seriously don't think he'll get any time, even suspended?
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Post by skully on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 13:02

As I said earlier - a good behaviour bond (with suspended sentence).
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Post by Bradman on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 13:11

Actually that was directed at Growls.
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Post by skully on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 13:20

I gathered, but he essentially said the same thing.
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Post by Bradman on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 13:31

Turn up for the books if the judge put himself through law school with the money from and hates ponces and Cricket
and decides to go ballistic.
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Post by Growler on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 17:04

Bradman wrote:You Seriously don't think he'll get any time, even suspended?

Brads, we both know this shit kicks off every weekend in one town or another, and normally bugger all happens of any legal consequence. A combination of a famous name and CCTV footage flashed the world over by a national paper meant it wouldn't go away quietly.

Remember someone also ended up with a fracture (most affrays don't, of course).

Now, whilst I don't know whether his brief will get an acquittal, if he doesn't, then he's damned by the camera. It wasn't handbags ... it was (as I think it was Lardy said) a full clockwork orange episode.

If convicted, the violence alone justifies jail time. With a £1.5 million+ IPL contract and presumably several hundred K England contract even the maximum fine available is little more than a minor inconvenience. That said, actual imprisonment would look awfully like excessive punishment for being famous, but a suspended jail sentence combined with anger management with a trick cyclist may just curb his drunken tendencies.
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Post by Bradman on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 20:37

Like you said. It will at least be very interesting. The fact that the fine is insignificant compared to his potential worth may be a factor. Though I imagine he's not the first rich dickhead to run foul of the law like this.
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Post by beamer on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 22:39

Given the injuries inflicted Iím not sure why he didnít get a GBH/ABH type charge against him.

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Post by horace on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 23:02

skully wrote:Maybe "Black ke" was a fat fingers attempt at "Bloke"???

Ta Skullywag. Shaky fingers, sobriety and a failing phone failed
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Post by Growler on Thu 09 Aug 2018, 23:26

beamer wrote:Given the injuries inflicted Iím not sure why he didnít get a GBH/ABH type charge against him.

beams, given the legal definition of affray, I can only imagine it's the charge the CPS felt most likely to result in conviction. As a layman I personally can't imagine a single defence to justify acquittal *on this offence*

It's quite possible there are reasons ABH or GBH may not result in a guilty verdict.
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Post by whitburn on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 06:37

I've been watching the footage, the first chance i've had. Stokes would have been destroyed had he gone after anyone who knows how to fight. His methods left himself wide open and he was lucky he picked on a couple of blokes who hadn't a clue how to handle a half drunk, swinging thug. We've got several 17/18 year olds at our gym who would have put him out of cricket for some time had he picked on them. I am appalled at him and i suggest he joins a boxing and martial club like ours, that usually has a great effect on most pseudo street fighters who come along to learn temper control and self defence when it's really needed, not just because you think you can hurt another person. Great player and he needs to be in the team but also a numpty.

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Post by beamer on Sun 12 Aug 2018, 12:03

Yeah, he needs to get in some fighting training to make sure he wins the inevitable on-field ďBattle of the BastardsĒ with Warner one day Wink

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Post by Bradman on Mon 13 Aug 2018, 02:18

hehehe
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Post by horace on Mon 13 Aug 2018, 21:08

Jury to consider verdict in the next 24 hours.

Will be stunned if the Thug is found not guilty. Even more amazing would be if the other accused is found guilty.

If found guilty it will be interesting what the Beak comes up with by way of a sentence.
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Post by vilkrang on Mon 13 Aug 2018, 21:58

Open and shut case, he's clearly going to be found guilty (should be anyway). The only question is what punishment he gets. As a first offence in this country most people would get a suspended sentence but as he's a celebrity they might give him worse to set an example.

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