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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by horace on Wed 01 Nov 2017, 09:12

skully wrote:In other Knight news Billy Connolly is now one. Well done him.

Complete loss of respect for him.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by embee on Wed 01 Nov 2017, 09:18

horace wrote:
skully wrote:In other Knight news Billy Connolly is now one. Well done him.

Complete loss of respect for him.

That only makes knighthoods more popular
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by skully on Wed 01 Nov 2017, 11:37

Damn straight. Most popular knighthood since Bradman.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by horace on Wed 01 Nov 2017, 12:03

Bradman the person seemed a shit and was at best dubious in stockbroking. His knighthood was therefor appropriate. He sits comfortably with the likes of Terry Lewis and Sir John Kerrvert.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by Fred Nerk on Wed 01 Nov 2017, 12:20

As I recall Sir Terry FFS was un-Sirred in the wake of the Moonlight State scandal....only a dozen times that's happened since the Middle Ages

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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by skully on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 00:07

Turncoat & Shortarse rule out audit

"MALCOLM Turnbull and Bill Shorten have been accused of running a protection racket for other potential dual citizens still in Parliament after the Prime Minister ruled out an audit.

An audit could cost Mr Turnbull government if any more MPs in the lower house lost their seats, and it would be “hugely embarrassing” for the Opposition to have any dual citizens revealed among its ranks, independent MP Andrew Wilkie said today.

Barnaby Joyce was likely right that there were “probably” other dual citizens still in Parliament, Mr Wilkie told ABC radio while calling for an audit.

“The consequences of an audit are just too great for both leaders — it would be hugely embarrassing for the opposition if after all they’ve said any of the Labor members were found to be dual citizens,” he said."


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I'm guessing the reason may be found in this article, which suggests there is a cloud over 13 Pinkos, 4 Libs, and a One Nation MP.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by Fred Nerk on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 00:20

Wonder who's 'asking the questions'? Seems that 'questions are being asked' about anybody with a last name more than a pre-set percentage of Alan Jones listeners would have trouble spelling.

Have the bloody audit. Then change the bloody constitution.

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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by JGK on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 00:37

How do you audit something like this?


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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by skully on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 02:07

Contact the "home" govts of each of the "suspects" and ask are they a citizen. Pretty simple. shrug
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by embee on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 02:24

Why dont they change the form the prospective pollies need to give to the AEC which says they are only a citizen of oz and all other citizenships are automatically renounced and whatever the other countries think is irrelevant and they can go ****** themselves

obviously we may have a couple of lawyers in this country able to draft up something more eloquent (not Brandis though) but the vibe is right

anybody who thinks Joyce and/or Ludlum favoured nz over oz in their parliamentary life is kidding themselves

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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by Fred Nerk on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 02:52

So the act of submitting the nomination form and making that declaration would in and of itself legally N&V any other citizenship status that may otherwise exist?

Do any other countries do it that way? Sounds too simple & logical to have taken this long to see daylight




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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by embee on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 03:10

No idea

dastyari reckons he spent a shitload renouncing his Iranian citizenship (which he probably reclaimed from the Chinese) but by doing so he knew he was a dual citizen

dont really think any of the others caught up in this shitfest thought they were dual citizens ...Roberts incapable of thought



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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by Bradman on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 03:34

embee wrote:No idea

dastyari reckons he spent a shitload renouncing his Iranian citizenship (which he probably reclaimed from the Chinese) but by doing so he knew he was a dual citizen

dont really think any of the others caught up in this shitfest thought they were dual citizens ...Roberts incapable of thought



 


mb n fn.  No idea what you blokes look like n I don't have a womb but I want to have your babies.  This is simplicity personified.  

Have just spent a very long boozy day arguing with an old lecturer that this problem can't be legislated and out of the mouths of babes (that sounds codescending but fark it) the solution.

A referendum to change the oath of allegiance.  That's would get up. And we would start on the road to a republic by stealth.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by JGK on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 05:38

embee wrote:Why dont they change the form the prospective pollies need to give to the AEC which says they are only a citizen of oz and all other citizenships are automatically renounced and whatever the other countries think is irrelevant and they can go ****** themselves

obviously we may have a couple of lawyers in this country able to draft up something more eloquent  (not Brandis though) but the vibe is right

anybody who thinks Joyce and/or Ludlum favoured nz over oz in their parliamentary life is kidding themselves



Malcolm Roberts clearly favoured his home planet of Mars a number of times though.


On your solution - if the other, non-identified country doesn't recognise that as renunciation then you aren't exactly achieving anything.


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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by horace on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 05:41

Huzzah...

Have been boozing on at a longish lunch. Drank some reasonable stout - made in Manly of all places.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by JGK on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 05:42

horace wrote:Huzzah...

Have been boozing on at a longish lunch. Drank some reasonable stout - made in Manly of all places.


4 Pines?

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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by skully on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 11:09

Fred Nerk wrote:Wonder who's 'asking the questions'? Seems that 'questions are being asked' about anybody with a last name more than a pre-set percentage of Alan Jones listeners would have trouble spelling.

Have the bloody audit. Then change the bloody constitution.

Just heard Chris Kenny on the wireless, and he reckons Labor's reluctance to push for an audit of all MPs screams loudly that they have real worries that some of their people have dodgy citizenship backgrounds. If they were clean they'd push hard to get more shit on the Libs to take them down.

I'd PMSL if Plibersek and Wong got the arse. They have been the two Labor pollies making most noise about "no need for an audit".
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by Bradman on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 13:08

skully wrote:
Fred Nerk wrote:Wonder who's 'asking the questions'? Seems that 'questions are being asked' about anybody with a last name more than a pre-set percentage of Alan Jones listeners would have trouble spelling.

Have the bloody audit. Then change the bloody constitution.

Just heard Chris Kenny on the wireless, and he reckons Labor's reluctance to push for an audit of all MPs screams loudly that they have real worries that some of their people have dodgy citizenship backgrounds. If they were clean they'd push hard to get more shit on the Libs to take them down.

I'd PMSL if Plibersek and Wong got the arse. They have been the two Labor pollies making most noise about "no need for an audit".

Alright let's leave aside the fact Kenny's father should have pulled out.and blown him all over the sheets.

He's right but a special friend is barking up the wrong tree.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by horace on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 19:57

JGK wrote:
horace wrote:Huzzah...

Have been boozing on at a longish lunch. Drank some reasonable stout - made in Manly of all places.


4 Pines?

Well done Mr K. Was boozing in Ballarat. I thought it was damned useful drop and helped keep the cold at bay.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by skully on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 21:58

Bradman wrote:
skully wrote:
Fred Nerk wrote:Wonder who's 'asking the questions'? Seems that 'questions are being asked' about anybody with a last name more than a pre-set percentage of Alan Jones listeners would have trouble spelling.

Have the bloody audit. Then change the bloody constitution.

Just heard Chris Kenny on the wireless, and he reckons Labor's reluctance to push for an audit of all MPs screams loudly that they have real worries that some of their people have dodgy citizenship backgrounds. If they were clean they'd push hard to get more shit on the Libs to take them down.

I'd PMSL if Plibersek and Wong got the arse. They have been the two Labor pollies making most noise about "no need for an audit".

Alright let's leave aside the fact Kenny's father should have pulled out.and blown him all over the sheets.  

He's right but a special friend is barking up the wrong tree.

What's the right tree, Q?
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by Bradman on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 22:29

OK I was a bit spannered, I may have been referring to correct numbers but the wrong way round. Interestingly at the same lunch a bloke who does spin for the local fascists (proof I'll drink with anyone ) claims the fix is in for fraudenberg to replace Turnbull early next year. His rationale had some merit.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by horace on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 22:39

even if Fraudenberg is a Hungarian?

Surely it is the traditional Qld copper who will replace Truffles
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by skully on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 22:53

Frydenberg??? FFS, he looks like a rabbit in the headlights every time he is before the media.

And as h points out, turns out his Mum is Hungarian, and therefore the he may be the next turd on the shit merry-go-round.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by Bradman on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 23:05

FFS! Ok his rationale seemed rational at the time. Is no one safe? You know if pat d is a full brother to mick d this could get really farking absurd, as I know mick's dad was Irish. Imagine just how bad we'll look if we revert to disqualifying Abpriginals.....again.
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Re: Aus Federal Politics thread (XIII)

Post by embee on Thu 02 Nov 2017, 23:44

wikipedia has them as brothers ...and their dad as Irish
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