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Re: AFL 2018

Post by embee on Mon 09 Jul 2018, 04:24

It's not the crowd volume in Perth ...the Freo crowd is actually louder than the Eagles and they get screwed 

Margetts and Dalgleish are Eagles supporting cheats would be the number one reason 

followed by the ducking of Shuey Cripps and co
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Post by horace on Mon 09 Jul 2018, 07:49

Was beating the Dopers, the Pies best performance?
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Post by Red on Mon 09 Jul 2018, 10:22

horace wrote:Was beating the Dopers, the Pies best performance?


No, originally it was Adelaide in Adelaide, and then Melbourne on QB because both of those teams were heavily favoured in the clashes.

I didn't expect to beat the Dons because the depth of our personnel is sorely stretched atm and they went into the game in a rich vein of form.


Meanwhile Brian Lake is jailed in Japan.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/brian-lake-arrested-in-japan-20180709-p4zqeu.html
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Re: AFL 2018

Post by lardbucket on Mon 09 Jul 2018, 13:08

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lardbucket wrote:I was at the game. This must have been the worst umpiring performance of all time ... complete ineptitude saved the umpires from accusations of systematic bias.

I dislike both these teams, almost equally ... but the umpires were even more lamentable in this case, and pretty well decided the match.

There have been plenty of times when we have been on the wrong end of umpiring, but I never resort to the umpire alibi.

They may not have been crash hot but there were poor decisions on both sides. One cannot expect free kick counts to be equal. It so happens that Essendon tend to concede the most frees in the league. Maybe it's the way they play. There were costly decisions that hurt us such as McKernan's dubious frees and JDG's non-mark.

We have a crippling injury list which was added to yesterday and I was surprised we were able to get over the line.

The most skewed umpiring I have seen this year is Eagles matches played in Perth. The crowd volume does appear to influence umpires. Yesterday the crowd featured more Dons than Pies.


You've got to be joking. A few errors going Essendon's way towards the end (the JDG mark not given the most obvious) in no way made up for the utter disgrace that was the umpiring in the first half. Systematically wrong, and consistently in favour of Collingwood. The crowd was scathing, because it was shit, there is absolutely nothing to suggest there was a Bomber majority.  If my team had been on the end of that garbage I'd have been ropable.

If you get that much help going forward, you'll be unbeatable. The umpiring was hopelessly biased and a disgrace. If it hadn't been perpetrated against Essendon, a team still tainted by their record of cheating, it would have been even more painful to witness, but you should face the facts.

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Re: AFL 2018

Post by horace on Mon 09 Jul 2018, 15:01

The AFL has hedged its bets on this years Fairytale premiership winner. C.on down Pondies, its your turn.
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Post by Red on Mon 09 Jul 2018, 15:02

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Red wrote:
lardbucket wrote:I was at the game. This must have been the worst umpiring performance of all time ... complete ineptitude saved the umpires from accusations of systematic bias.

I dislike both these teams, almost equally ... but the umpires were even more lamentable in this case, and pretty well decided the match.

There have been plenty of times when we have been on the wrong end of umpiring, but I never resort to the umpire alibi.

They may not have been crash hot but there were poor decisions on both sides. One cannot expect free kick counts to be equal. It so happens that Essendon tend to concede the most frees in the league. Maybe it's the way they play. There were costly decisions that hurt us such as McKernan's dubious frees and JDG's non-mark.

We have a crippling injury list which was added to yesterday and I was surprised we were able to get over the line.

The most skewed umpiring I have seen this year is Eagles matches played in Perth. The crowd volume does appear to influence umpires. Yesterday the crowd featured more Dons than Pies.


You've got to be joking. A few errors going Essendon's way towards the end (the JDG mark not given the most obvious) in no way made up for the utter disgrace that was the umpiring in the first half. Systematically wrong, and consistently in favour of Collingwood. The crowd was scathing, because it was shit, there is absolutely nothing to suggest there was a Bomber majority.  If my team had been on the end of that garbage I'd have been ropable.

If you get that much help going forward, you'll be unbeatable. The umpiring was hopelessly biased and a disgrace. If it hadn't been perpetrated against Essendon, a team still tainted by their record of cheating, it would have been even more painful to witness, but you should face the facts.

Umpiring is not facts, it's to a degree a subjective interpretation of the rules. For example Checkers and is Don opponent had an equal grab of a mark but they gave it to the latter. Several commentators saw it differently.  Sometimes umpires overrule each other.

The McKernan mark which was paid was a result of a kick which did not go the requisite fifteen metres.

Dons aren't happy with the free kick count but there has been a 45-80 differential over the past three weeks so maybe they have to look at how they're tackling etc.

Pies are second on the ladder though have had to get there the hard way leading the league in injuries.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/collingwood-and-carlton-lead-the-afls-injury-ladder-richmond-among-clubs-to-avoid-injury-pain/news-story/065acb8114919f97ce54297f8eec503d


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Re: AFL 2018

Post by horace on Mon 09 Jul 2018, 15:07

Lol@Red. The AFL is doing everything in its power to get Collingwood over the line. Soft as butter draw, heaps of G games, not looking too closely at media contracts outside the salary cap.
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Post by Red on Mon 09 Jul 2018, 15:10

horace wrote:Lol@Red. The AFL is doing everything in its power to get Collingwood over the line. Soft as butter draw, heaps of G games, not looking too closely at media contracts outside the salary cap.


Just like Richmond, lots of games at the home of cricket. Of course we have won all our games played interstate. Let us play more. Our draw is based on where we finished last year; they do it in three lots of six. Last year the Tiges benefited from this arrangement after finishing thirteenth in 2016.
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Re: AFL 2018

Post by lardbucket on Tue 10 Jul 2018, 09:03

FFS Red, you’re still in denial.

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Re: AFL 2018

Post by horace on Tue 10 Jul 2018, 13:00

The draw is a joke. We need to go back to 12 teams. Get rid of Go Co and Giants and reduce Melbourne teams from 9 to five. The four missing would play in the VFL and be eligible for promotion if they are Premiers. The bottom placed Melbourne team would be relegated.
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The twelve teams would play each other twice. Interstate teams would play more games at the G. Eddiehead would be home for the VFl.

Advantages inc improved quality of the main comp. Imagine the interest each year in the relegation-pro.otion battle.
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Post by embee on Tue 10 Jul 2018, 13:58

12 teams is a lovely romantic ideal but it doesnt pay the bills

18 teams ...9 games per week is what television wants so they can pay shitloads for tv rights 

Gold Coast will be supported for too long ...not sure what they can do about them 

Giants will need another talent injection soon ...and they've run out of young underused talent 

Tassie needs a team only for geographic balance ...they'd probably needs more financial support than GC to survive ...although at least their supporters would be passionate and knowledgeable (if they bother to change to the local team)
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Re: AFL 2018

Post by Bradman on Tue 10 Jul 2018, 14:08

A Tassie side would make a lot of sense, TV wise anyway. Certainly makes more sense than the Goldie where no-one gives a rats about sports.
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Post by skully on Tue 10 Jul 2018, 14:52

Bradman wrote:Certainly makes more sense than the Goldie where no-one gives a rats about sports.

And yet "they" keep trying to make it work. The Suns are a dismal failure, soccer had the failed Gold Coast United and Leeg has failed with the Giants, the Seagulls, the Chargers and now the Titans.

When will sport wake up to what Q said - the Gold Coast doesn't care.
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Re: AFL 2018

Post by Big Dog on Tue 10 Jul 2018, 22:36

Shortarse has promised $25M to the AFL to set up a Tassie team if he is elected. His pork barreling knows no bounds.
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Re: AFL 2018

Post by skully on Tue 10 Jul 2018, 22:40

It's the Labor way. Promise the world with uncosted gifts at the expense of the budget and deficit, and tell a million lies about the Good Guys along the way. Shorten is the qunt at the top of the Pinko Vagina tree.

I'm amazed they haven't trotted out the Medi-scare campaign again. Give 'em time but.

It's sad that the electorate falls for it.
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Re: AFL 2018

Post by Red on Wed 11 Jul 2018, 02:45

Sloane has committed to the Crows for life, rejecting overtures from Victorian clubs.
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Post by Red on Wed 11 Jul 2018, 02:48

skully wrote:It's the Labor way. Promise the world with uncosted gifts at the expense of the budget and deficit, and tell a million lies about the Good Guys along the way. Shorten is the qunt at the top of the Pinko Vagina tree.

I'm amazed they haven't trotted out the Medi-scare campaign again. Give 'em time but.

It's sad that the electorate falls for it.

A bit disingenuous Skully. The Libs are also guilty of uncosted promises and at a time of ballooning debt have promised unsustainable tax cuts for political expedience and this despite the so-called budget emergency they ran as a scare campaign. If Labor spends more, it's often because they are are doing something. In Victoria, Andrews for all his criticism from the right, actually gets things done. Meanwhile Guy comes up with pie in the sky programs desperately searching for political relevance.
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Post by lardbucket on Wed 11 Jul 2018, 04:28

How are the tax cuts ‘for political expedience’ when they seem more likely to be the main target of the current opposition?

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Post by horace on Wed 11 Jul 2018, 04:42

Red wrote:
skully wrote:It's the Labor way. Promise the world with uncosted gifts at the expense of the budget and deficit, and tell a million lies about the Good Guys along the way. Shorten is the qunt at the top of the Pinko Vagina tree.

I'm amazed they haven't trotted out the Medi-scare campaign again. Give 'em time but.

It's sad that the electorate falls for it.

A bit disingenuous Skully. The Libs are also guilty of uncosted promises and at a time of ballooning debt have promised unsustainable tax cuts for political expedience and this despite the so-called budget emergency they ran as a scare campaign.  If Labor spends more, it's often because they are are doing something. In Victoria, Andrews for all his criticism from the right, actually gets things done. Meanwhile Guy comes up with pie in the sky programs desperately searching for political relevance.

Andrews lost my vote today. Has allowed the religious maniacs to take confessions from child abusers without obligation to tell the cops. This consigns yet more kids to abuse and all on the basis of fairy tales. Half the time the fairy tale purveyor taking the confession will want the address of the abused child so they can participate. This is an absolutely despicable decision. Andrews is a radish - pale pink on the outside and white on the inside.

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Post by horace on Wed 11 Jul 2018, 04:43

Lenin was spot on about these useless social democrats.
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Post by skully on Wed 11 Jul 2018, 04:45

Red wrote:
skully wrote:It's the Labor way. Promise the world with uncosted gifts at the expense of the budget and deficit, and tell a million lies about the Good Guys along the way. Shorten is the qunt at the top of the Pinko Vagina tree.

I'm amazed they haven't trotted out the Medi-scare campaign again. Give 'em time but.

It's sad that the electorate falls for it.

A bit disingenuous Skully. The Libs are also guilty of uncosted promises and at a time of ballooning debt have promised unsustainable tax cuts for political expedience and this despite the so-called budget emergency they ran as a scare campaign.  If Labor spends more, it's often because they are are doing something. In Victoria, Andrews for all his criticism from the right, actually gets things done. Meanwhile Guy comes up with pie in the sky programs desperately searching for political relevance.

Forgive me, Red, but that coming from a rusted on Pinko like you hardly rings with any genuineness. The Libs repair the Pinko cocked-up books, then the Pinks fark them up again real quick with their Pinko Maths.
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Post by Red on Wed 11 Jul 2018, 04:52

skully wrote:
Red wrote:
skully wrote:It's the Labor way. Promise the world with uncosted gifts at the expense of the budget and deficit, and tell a million lies about the Good Guys along the way. Shorten is the qunt at the top of the Pinko Vagina tree.

I'm amazed they haven't trotted out the Medi-scare campaign again. Give 'em time but.

It's sad that the electorate falls for it.

A bit disingenuous Skully. The Libs are also guilty of uncosted promises and at a time of ballooning debt have promised unsustainable tax cuts for political expedience and this despite the so-called budget emergency they ran as a scare campaign.  If Labor spends more, it's often because they are are doing something. In Victoria, Andrews for all his criticism from the right, actually gets things done. Meanwhile Guy comes up with pie in the sky programs desperately searching for political relevance.

Forgive me, Red, but that coming from a rusted on Pinko like you hardly rings with any genuineness. The Libs repair the Pinko cocked-up books, then the Pinks fark them up again real quick with their Pinko Maths.

It's pretty easy to repair the books if that is what they do when you do stuff all yourself. The previous Lib state govt. was elected on a platform of public transport, but did nothing except at the last minute signed this perilous deal for the East-West link which voters said they didn't want. They ensured that their business mates profited when Andrews quite rightly discarded the deal which had no business case.

BTW, the whole Libs are better economic managers is a myth. Experts will tell you that Costello wasted the boom times for us, though of course we did spend money funding Howard's marriage with the coalition of the willing. During the Global economic crisis, Labor kept us afloat. And the same Costello does not agree with the tax cuts the Feds are currently offering. Amazing they can do this amidst a so-called budget emergency which they never repaired. They prefer to extend the deficit.
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Re: AFL 2018

Post by horace on Wed 11 Jul 2018, 05:48

... yep... and we know how the Coalition of the Criminal Countries has worked out in Iraq..... Thanks seppos, poms and strinos for a 100 year war. Blair, Bush and Howard are war criminals.
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Post by skully on Wed 11 Jul 2018, 05:52

Red wrote:
skully wrote:
Red wrote:
skully wrote:It's the Labor way. Promise the world with uncosted gifts at the expense of the budget and deficit, and tell a million lies about the Good Guys along the way. Shorten is the qunt at the top of the Pinko Vagina tree.

I'm amazed they haven't trotted out the Medi-scare campaign again. Give 'em time but.

It's sad that the electorate falls for it.

A bit disingenuous Skully. The Libs are also guilty of uncosted promises and at a time of ballooning debt have promised unsustainable tax cuts for political expedience and this despite the so-called budget emergency they ran as a scare campaign.  If Labor spends more, it's often because they are are doing something. In Victoria, Andrews for all his criticism from the right, actually gets things done. Meanwhile Guy comes up with pie in the sky programs desperately searching for political relevance.

Forgive me, Red, but that coming from a rusted on Pinko like you hardly rings with any genuineness. The Libs repair the Pinko cocked-up books, then the Pinks fark them up again real quick with their Pinko Maths.

It's pretty easy to repair the books if that is what they do when you do stuff all yourself. The previous Lib state govt. was elected on a platform of public transport, but did nothing except at the last minute signed this perilous deal for the East-West link which voters said they didn't want. They ensured that their business mates profited when Andrews quite rightly discarded the deal which had no business case.

BTW, the whole Libs are better economic managers is a myth. Experts will tell you that Costello wasted the boom times for us, though of course we did spend money funding Howard's marriage with the coalition of the willing. During the Global economic crisis, Labor kept us afloat.  And the same Costello does not agree with the tax cuts the Feds are currently offering. Amazing they can do this amidst a so-called budget emergency which they never repaired.  They prefer to extend the deficit.

Rusted.on.tight.

PMSL. Very easy to "Keep us afloat" when they had a whacking great surplus left by the Libs to spend. Those same Pinkos turned that $50 Bill Surplus into a $250 Bill Deficit in 3 short years and turned our welfare budget into a 3rd world debt-sized monster basket case. Yup, cracking financial managers. Geez Louise, do me a favour.  Rolling Eyes

A Victorian teacher (as rusted as they come) is the last person that is in a position to give advice on the virtues of the Libs. Rolling Eyes

Time to get out and do some Vic Pinko fundraising, isn't it?


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Re: AFL 2018

Post by horace on Wed 11 Jul 2018, 05:56

As of today Andrews is filth and complicit in future child abuse. If the Tories come out with a decent policy on this issue they will have my preferences ahead of the radishes.
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