Farewell to the coin toss?
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Farewell to the coin toss?
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/icc-test-championship-coin-toss-ashes-international-cricket-council-australia/2018-05-18
Might result in even more exaggerated pitches being prepared to suit the home side resulting in farcical matches.
Might result in even more exaggerated pitches being prepared to suit the home side resulting in farcical matches.
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It's controversial here - I'm not sure what the current state of discussion is, whether it will be axed again.
I can see why it has been tried. Well, it's fairly obvious what the purpose was - that's the first thing up if you read any discussion of it.
But seeing how it works in practice, if it was not predictable before lobbing it in, the double question is:
> Does it achieve its aim, without causing the reverse unfairness? and:
> Is there no more even & equitable way to counter any excessive "pushing" of home advantage?
It's controversial here - I'm not sure what the current state of discussion is, whether it will be axed again.
I can see why it has been tried. Well, it's fairly obvious what the purpose was - that's the first thing up if you read any discussion of it.
But seeing how it works in practice, if it was not predictable before lobbing it in, the double question is:
> Does it achieve its aim, without causing the reverse unfairness? and:
> Is there no more even & equitable way to counter any excessive "pushing" of home advantage?
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Interesting development.
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One of the great things about cricket has always been the different character of different pitches in different countries. This provided a true test of the quality of visiting players.
Banindia and then Pomgolia have been the two countries to dial in home pitch requirements (tho the Bannies did not on the last Oz tour there). The Lankans have also been guilty. SA and Oz have not.
Much to my disappointment Oz did not dial in hard green tops to tear up the Bannies. If anything we have gone the other way. I suspect the media blight of Charnel Nein wanted flat tracks here, so games went to the fourth day.
I fear the potential new rule could minimise the differences between pitches and establish some boring universal pitch.
Banindia and then Pomgolia have been the two countries to dial in home pitch requirements (tho the Bannies did not on the last Oz tour there). The Lankans have also been guilty. SA and Oz have not.
Much to my disappointment Oz did not dial in hard green tops to tear up the Bannies. If anything we have gone the other way. I suspect the media blight of Charnel Nein wanted flat tracks here, so games went to the fourth day.
I fear the potential new rule could minimise the differences between pitches and establish some boring universal pitch.
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This is such an unbelievably bad idea.
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JGK wrote:This is such an unbelievably bad idea.
yep.
Personally I have always liked the toss.
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The home venue may be more important than the toss according to a few of the stats sites. A cursory glance at stats guru shows there's certainly an advantage but its not gaping.
Home teams win about 35% more than they lose when losing the toss, though that number edges closer to 50% when they win.
Home teams win about 35% more than they lose when losing the toss, though that number edges closer to 50% when they win.
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Bradman wrote:The home venue may be more important than the toss according to a few of the stats sites. A cursory glance at stats guru shows there's certainly an advantage but its not gaping.
Home teams win about 35% more than they lose when losing the toss, though that number edges closer to 50% when they win.
So by the above logic we should also ban all home tests.
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taipan wrote:Bradman wrote:The home venue may be more important than the toss according to a few of the stats sites. A cursory glance at stats guru shows there's certainly an advantage but its not gaping.
Home teams win about 35% more than they lose when losing the toss, though that number edges closer to 50% when they win.
So by the above logic we should also ban all home tests.
Only in Banindia
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Big Dog wrote:https://www.cricket.com.au/news/icc-test-championship-coin-toss-ashes-international-cricket-council-australia/2018-05-18
Really??
Can't say I agree with this.
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horace wrote:JGK wrote:This is such an unbelievably bad idea.
yep.
Personally I have always liked the toss.
Carry On moment.
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I can't decide.
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There's only one way to decide which side you're on ...
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