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Post by taipan on Fri 19 Oct 2018, 11:02

Red wrote:Marshes on fire.  What a debacle - nine pins down!

You need more Saffies
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Post by horace on Fri 19 Oct 2018, 11:10

taipan wrote:
Red wrote:Marshes on fire.  What a debacle - nine pins down!

You need more Saffies

He bowls ok but should bat at 8.

Lasagna was by no means the worst.
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Post by Red on Fri 19 Oct 2018, 11:26

So Marshes combined for forty-four runs across eight innings. Stellar stuff!
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Post by Blackadder on Fri 19 Oct 2018, 22:15

In terms of losses by Runs , Two of the Five heaviest losses have come post the Sandpaper saga.

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Post by Nath on Fri 19 Oct 2018, 22:49

so if we're ranking player performances out of 10, only Finch, Khawaja and Lyon would pass?  (am I being too harsh on Labuschagne?)


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Post by skully on Fri 19 Oct 2018, 22:51

Jettison the Darshes and start again.
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Post by Red on Sat 20 Oct 2018, 07:02

Nath wrote:so if we're ranking player performances out of 10, only Finch, Khawaja and Lyon would pass?  (am I being too harsh on Labuschagne?)

Australia player ratings: Who stood up, and who failed?
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Australia’s first full Test series since the ball tampering saga was always going to provide a major challenge. Winning in Asia is difficult at the best of times, and made all the harder when a side’s batting is badly depleted by suspension, and fast bowling stocks take a hammering through injury.

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Mohammad Abbas grabbed 5 wickets in the second innings, and ten overall for the match, as Pakistan bundled Australia all out for 164 runs. Mamus Labuschagne top-scored with 43, while the Marsh brothers fail to perform again.

The tourists pulled off a stunning save to draw the first Test in Dubai, and had Pakistan on the ropes at 5-57 in the first session of the second Test in Abu Dhabi. However save for the end of the first Test and the start of the second, Pakistan dominated the series, and a 1-0 defeat was a fitting result. Australia picked the same XI for both Tests.

Which players stood up, and whose reputations took a hit?

9/10: Usman Khawaja
229 runs at 76.33

His record in Asia had been dismal before this series, but that history was swept aside with a player of the match performance in Dubai. Elevated to open the innings in the absence of David Warner and Cameron Bancroft, Khawaja thrived under the pressure, making 85 in the first innings as he and Aaron Finch built a platform before a major collapse. Khawaja’s piece de resistance came in the second innings though, his 141 to save the game surely one of the grittiest Test innings ever played by an Australian abroad. Alas, the mightiest innings of his career was followed by a cruel twist, with Khawaja caught down the leg side early in the first innings in Abu Dhabi, and then unable to bat in the second dig after a meniscal tear suffered during the warmup on day three, an injury which left his summer hopes in jeopardy.

Highs and lows: Usman Khawaja.
Highs and lows: Usman Khawaja.CREDIT:AP

7/10: Nathan Lyon
12 wickets at 32.08, 19 runs at 9.5

Australia’s greatest ever off-spinner was forced to carry a huge load, breaking his own record for the most balls bowled by an Australian in a two-Test series. While not as prolific as he had been in Bangladesh last year, Lyon was disciplined and managed to atone for a poor series four years ago against Pakistan in the UAE. He had limited impact in the first Test, but turned the second Test in Australia’s favour early on day one with four wickets in six balls, making the most of conditions more often seen in Australia than Asia. In doing so Lyon moved into fourth position on Australia’s all-time Test wicket-takers list. It wasn’t his fault that a winning position was too easily relinquished.

7/10: Aaron Finch
181 runs at 45.25

The man who made more international runs before his Test debut than any player in history didn’t look at all out of place at the level. He batted positively but sensibly, and made a start in all four of his innings, with his opening partnership with Khawaja looking like a winner. Somewhat frustratingly, the Victorian failed to convert his starts to triple figures, but in a batting lineup desperately lacking bankable runs and experience, Finch’s selection looks to have been an astute one.

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5/10: Travis Head
259 runs at 30.50

Another of Australia’s batting debutants, Head recovered from a first innings duck in Dubai to play a critical supporting role in saving the first Test. He looked comfortable enough at the crease and some of his stroke-making was sublime. He probably isn’t a definitive lock for the start of the home summer but the South Australian has done enough to suggest he is worth persisting with, especially given these trying times in Australian cricket.

Travis Head played an important second innings in his Test debut.
Travis Head played an important second innings in his Test debut.CREDIT:AP

5/10: Marnus Labuschagne
81 runs at 20.25, seven wickets at 22.42

The South African-born Queenslander might be the hardest player in the Australian squad to assess after experiencing a series of dramatic highs and lows. He failed twice with the bat in Dubai and while he looked better in Abu Dhabi he couldn’t crack a maiden half-century. He was sloppily run out in the first innings after failing to ground his bat while backing up, his second forgettable moment in as many days after putting down a simple catch off the bat of Fakhar Zaman on day one. But there were moments of brilliance too, including a stunning catch at short leg on the opening morning in Dubai, and a run out of Babar Azam in the first Test. Most of all there was his leg-spin, which stunningly took Labuschagne to the top of Australia’s bowling averages. He imparted plenty of turn and looked dangerous. Full of energy, his future is intriguing.

5/10: Tim Paine
71 runs at 23.66, five catches, one stumping

Paine’s job in captaining this wounded side isn’t unenviable, but he is making a reasonable fist of it. His side played attritional cricket for much of the first Test and for that he deserves credit for the result, not least because of his dogged 61 not out to save the Test. His fields during the second Test were arguably too defensive though, perhaps allowing Pakistan back into the game. His work behind the stumps was unsurprisingly tidy, although other than the Dubai second innings there was little write home about with his batting.

5/10: Peter Siddle
Three wickets at 56.00, 17 runs at 4.25

Recalled for his first Test cricket in nearly two years, the veteran did what was expected, charging in and making the Pakistanis earn their runs. His 3-58 from 29 overs in Dubai was a mighty effort, but they would prove to be his last wickets for the series, with the workhorse lacking the tricks of Mohammad Abbas, who led the tourists on a merry dance across the series. Placed on standby for the upcoming Twenty20 series, Siddle isn’t in Australia’s best attack for the home summer but remains a steady option in the wings.

5/10: Mitchell Starc
Four wickets at 44.25, 63 runs at 15.75

Australia’s strike bowler toiled hard in Dubai, bowling a mountain of overs in trying conditions and with an unhelpful pitch. Disappointingly though he struggled to find enough of the reverse swing which could have made him a big danger. Australia toyed with the idea of resting him for the second Test but he backed up and didn’t have a huge impact. He was used sparingly in the second innings after experiencing hamstring tightness, although he did at least contribute with the bat.

Mitchell Starc celebrates a wicket.
Mitchell Starc celebrates a wicket.CREDIT:AP

4/10: Jon Holland
Four wickets at 75.00, five runs at 5.00

The Victorian didn’t think he’d get a second crack at Test cricket after his disappointing showing in Sri Lanka in 2016. The left-arm spinner did get another go, but unfortunately for him it didn’t go to plan. Appearing nervous in the first innings in Dubai he was targeted by Pakistan’s batsmen as the weak link in Australia’s attack. He took three second innings wickets, and should have had a couple more in Abu Dhabi, having a catch dropped off his bowling and being on the wrong end of a decision review system quirk. Even so Holland didn’t threaten as often as Labuschagne, and it’s hard to envisage him playing another Test any time soon.

2/10: Mitchell Marsh
30 runs at 7.50, two wickets at 49.00

The vice-captain was the best performed player in his family but that didn’t say much. With Australia’s batting so shallow, Marsh was elevated to No. 4 in the first Test, and the experiment didn’t work. He was dropped below Head for the second Test, but the results didn’t change. His bowling was steady if unspectacular, and while last summer was seen to be a breakthrough, the jury may again be out on the all-rounder’s Test credentials.

1/10: Shaun Marsh
14 runs at 3.50

Feast or famine. It’s been the story of this tremendously talented batsman’s career. Unfortunately for the West Australian the latter is prevailing at the moment, and this slump might prove the end of his days in the baggy green, even though his one-day international form this year has been strong. The veteran was promoted to open in Khawaja’s absence in the second Test in Abu Dhabi and copped a gem of a ball from debutant Mir Hamza. It might be the last delivery he faces in Test cricket.

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Post by Nath on Sat 20 Oct 2018, 08:28

ridiculous giving Starc and Siddle a 5 each. should be 3 each (same for Holland)
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Post by horace on Sat 20 Oct 2018, 20:47

Nath wrote:ridiculous giving Starc and Siddle a 5 each.  should be 3 each (same for Holland)

Agree. Only Uber gets a good score. Bare passes for Fink, Lyon and Head

Of the rest
4 Lasagna, Starc, Paine - one innings and good handshakes and at best tidy keeping are not enough)
3 Siddle, Holland - both big fails
2 Mere
1 Bog - for tying his own laces

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Post by Nath on Sat 20 Oct 2018, 22:32

apparently Holland has a broken finger too
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Post by horace on Mon 22 Oct 2018, 04:05

Nath wrote:apparently Holland has a broken finger too

And a thumb. Figures could've been more respectable, had chances not been dropped ...... Champ vc Mitch Marsh says hi.
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Post by Guest on Mon 22 Oct 2018, 18:36

Amazing that Australia are still favourites with the bookies to retain the urn next year. I know Smith will be back with a point to prove and England don't have any openers but you'd think that with both sides having a heap of problems that England would be favourites on home soil.

About time Australia won in England though, 2001 was a long time ago so whilst I disagree with the favourites tag, it wouldn't surprise me if they did win.

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Post by skully on Mon 22 Oct 2018, 23:15

England will shit in, vilks.

Even a 37 year old Jimmeh in a zimmer frame will sort our weak batting out.
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Post by Blackadder on Tue 23 Oct 2018, 08:08

skully wrote:England will shit in, vilks.

Even a 37 year old Jimmeh in a zimmer frame will sort our weak batting out.

Aye, time for a Pineapple or Two on the Poms for the series win.

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Post by Guest on Tue 23 Oct 2018, 11:25

skully wrote:England will shit in, vilks.

Even a 37 year old Jimmeh in a zimmer frame will sort our weak batting out.
I do agree but I wouldn't be shocked if it was competitive, not because either team will play well but because we will out shit each other.

If this year is anything to go by then I think you might be right and Jimmy might well be the difference even at 37.

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Post by beamer on Mon 29 Oct 2018, 16:02

vilkrang wrote:
skully wrote:England will shit in, vilks.

Even a 37 year old Jimmeh in a zimmer frame will sort our weak batting out.
I do agree but I wouldn't be shocked if it was competitive, not because either team will play well but because we will out shit each other.

If this year is anything to go by then I think you might be right and Jimmy might well be the difference even at 37.
We’ve out-shat everyone at least once over the past few years, but at home it just tends to be one complacent capitulation per series.

There would be no excuses for losing at home to this Aussie side, even with Smith back - never mind the issue of Jimmy’s advancing age, an average county seam attack should be able to roll them over in English conditions.

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Post by horace on Mon 29 Oct 2018, 20:19

Spot on Beamer. Oz will take the Marsh kids and Warner, none of whom have fired a shot in England. Our bowling will keep it interesting but our batting is dire.
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Post by skully on Mon 29 Oct 2018, 21:13

Worst top 7 EVER.
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Post by skully on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 04:53

I think Phil Carlson got a guernsey around that time too.
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Post by JGK on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 07:32

skully wrote:I think Phil Carlson got a guernsey around that time too.


He was no Bruce Francis.

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Post by skully on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 08:02

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