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Post by horace Tue 18 Dec 2018, 06:26

On reflection the  difference in the batting could be the tail. Even Starc and Haze put on runs yesterday, while Cummins and Lyon have hung around and scored runs. 

The Bannie quicks by contrast do not want to be there, being more concerned with personal safety. Thought the Oz quicks could have really gone for them today, tho Instant, Umesh seemed more intent in getting out before they could be hit.

Maybe the Bannies heard Ima's advice to Big head that he had to bat again.

Reflecting on this match it is clear the Bannies are over rated as 1# TEAM. At the moment I think NZ and the Yarps are leading the pack with the Stans close behind.
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Post by embee Tue 18 Dec 2018, 06:28

she sounds like a whackjob who takes extreme positions and refuses to consider any alternative opinion


at least now you know what it's like talking to you
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Post by JGK Tue 18 Dec 2018, 06:40

Fred Nerk wrote:India won when Kohli did sweet Frankie Avalon and mainly kept his trap shut, then lost when he produced the innings of the series and spent the rest of the time carrying on like a pork chop.  Did Tim maybe hit gold with his crack about Virat's compatibility with the rest of the team?

I reckon we will hear it again a few times this summer.

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Post by whitburn Tue 18 Dec 2018, 07:44

taipan wrote:When you get two teams as evenly matched as Aus and Ind the toss is crucial. The toss winner at MCG will probably win the series.

Good shout.

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Post by Nath Tue 18 Dec 2018, 07:45

didn't even take any time to consider changes to the squad
https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/australia-name-squad-for-boxing-day-test-and-new-year-tests/news-story/24c77cacd872345be0d2448421c4cc52
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Post by embee Tue 18 Dec 2018, 07:53

They should have added an opener as cover for Finch ...and a spinner (Holland)

We are so short of quality replacements that Wank is retained despite showing his technique is fatal at Test level ...and when Puddle is the first choice replacement we arent gaining much




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Post by tricycle Tue 18 Dec 2018, 08:36

horace wrote:
Reflecting on this match it is clear the Bannies are over rated as 1# TEAM. At the moment I think NZ and the Yarps are leading the pack with the Stans close behind.
Yeah, this is not true. I'm not one of those chest thumper types... But in India's worst tours, all this past year, India have not been too far off.

Pakistan just lost a home series. 6-40 or so to lose by 4 runs. Also, have a look at their batting in recent times.

South Africa have lost in the subcontinent too often recently. This was where they were better than anyone else till recently.

NZ are not far off, but barely play enough test cricket to make a fair assessment. Even board doesn't want tests.

They're not Australia mid 2000s, but one of the best of a mediocre bunch. That lack of dominance has made test cricket so much more interesting.

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Post by furriner Tue 18 Dec 2018, 08:39

What a shower. OF SHITE!!!!

SACK KOHLI NOW!!!!!!
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Post by furriner Tue 18 Dec 2018, 08:42

furriner wrote:175 is all Aus needs.  A Kohli 50 - at best - and everyone else wont nake 125 combined.

Close enough.
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Post by taipan Tue 18 Dec 2018, 08:56

tricycle wrote:
horace wrote:
Reflecting on this match it is clear the Bannies are over rated as 1# TEAM. At the moment I think NZ and the Yarps are leading the pack with the Stans close behind.
Yeah, this is not true. I'm not one of those chest thumper types... But in India's worst tours, all this past year, India have not been too far off.

Pakistan just lost a home series. 6-40 or so to lose by 4 runs. Also, have a look at their batting in recent times.

South Africa have lost in the subcontinent too often recently. This was where they were better than anyone else till recently.

NZ are not far off, but barely play enough test cricket to make a fair assessment. Even board doesn't want tests.

They're not Australia mid 2000s, but one of the best of a mediocre bunch. That lack of dominance has made test cricket so much more interesting.

Personally I think it's too tight to call all round. There's a few teams with decent attacks but most teams hide behind one or maybe two batsmen. If they fail the team fails. There is also a dearth of quality allrounders to give balance..
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Post by Red Tue 18 Dec 2018, 09:59

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/explosive-in-fighting-mars-test-defeat-for-india-20181218-p50mxg.html

India imploding.

Think India's team was unbalanced. That long tail was always going to be exposed in Perth. Why four quickmen?

Agree re. our lack of replacements for the likes of Handy who's reverted to his erstwhile flawed technique.
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Post by whitburn Tue 18 Dec 2018, 12:03

taipan wrote:

There's a few teams with decent attacks but most teams hide behind one or maybe two batsmen. If they fail the team fails. There is also a dearth of quality allrounders to give balance..

Stokes, Woakes, Lyon, Al Hasan, Philander, Jadeja? They all come immediately to mind, pretty good all-rounders would you say?

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Post by Fred Nerk Tue 18 Dec 2018, 12:34

Australia usually have 11 blokes who can bat and this crowd is no real exception (unforch they lack blokes who can consistently bat really really well for a really really long time like Steve the Unmentionable used to), but they also usually have at least 8 who can at least roll the arm over if needs be. But Head who aint exactly Jacques Careless is the only batsman in this side who I've ever seen or heard of bowling, hence the continual screaming for an all-rounder. But if we can't find one better than Mishmash we're just going to have to learn to do without.

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Post by taipan Tue 18 Dec 2018, 13:31

whitburn wrote:
taipan wrote:

There's a few teams with decent attacks but most teams hide behind one or maybe two batsmen. If they fail the team fails. There is also a dearth of quality allrounders to give balance..

Stokes, Woakes, Lyon, Al Hasan, Philander, Jadeja? They all come immediately to mind, pretty good all-rounders would you say?

I'll give you Al Hasan.

Stokes just over 30 with bat and ball

Woakes ditto.

Lyon bats at 10 for Aus.

Philander would be good at 8

Jadeja can't get in the Indian team


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Post by taipan Tue 18 Dec 2018, 13:33

Fred Nerk wrote:Australia usually have 11 blokes who can bat and this crowd is no real exception (unforch they lack blokes who can consistently bat really really well for a really really long time like Steve the Unmentionable used to), but they also usually have at least 8 who can at least roll the arm over if needs be. But Head who aint exactly Jacques Careless is the only batsman in this side who I've ever seen or heard of bowling, hence the continual screaming for an all-rounder. But if we can't find one better than Mishmash we're just going to have to learn to do without.

When did Aus last have an allrounder? Watson?
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Post by horace Tue 18 Dec 2018, 21:12

taipan wrote:
Fred Nerk wrote:Australia usually have 11 blokes who can bat and this crowd is no real exception (unforch they lack blokes who can consistently bat really really well for a really really long time like Steve the Unmentionable used to), but they also usually have at least 8 who can at least roll the arm over if needs be. But Head who aint exactly Jacques Careless is the only batsman in this side who I've ever seen or heard of bowling, hence the continual screaming for an all-rounder. But if we can't find one better than Mishmash we're just going to have to learn to do without.

When did Aus last have an allrounder? Watson?

Now that's just mean.
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