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Re: French Open

Post by Fred Nerk on Fri 06 Jun 2008, 15:09

Fed will absolutely eat Monfils.

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Re: French Open

Post by JGK on Fri 06 Jun 2008, 16:25

Fed wins the first set but doesn't look like he can get close to Nadal.

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Re: French Open

Post by Chivalry Augustus on Fri 06 Jun 2008, 17:01

A set apiece now (6-2, 5-7).
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Re: French Open

Post by Lara Lara Laughs on Fri 06 Jun 2008, 17:06

I think Federer is hoping that if he gets to the final of the French everytime, Nadal's got to get an injury and forfeit one day.
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Re: French Open

Post by PeterCS on Fri 06 Jun 2008, 17:08

But Rafa's only got two feet, liek the rest of us. confused
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Re: French Open

Post by Paul Keating on Sat 07 Jun 2008, 08:54

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Who do you think are the top 5 clay courters of all time

I think I had the same top five when we did this a year ago.

Of the modern Era

Borg
Lendl
Kuerton
Nadal
Vilas

Closely followed by Bruguera and Courier.
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Re: French Open

Post by taipan on Sat 07 Jun 2008, 09:31

Paul Keating wrote:
Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Who do you think are the top 5 clay courters of all time

I think I had the same top five when we did this a year ago.

Of the modern Era

Borg
Lendl
Kuerton
Nadal
Vilas

Closely followed by Bruguera and Courier.

Muster?
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Post by JGK on Sat 07 Jun 2008, 13:52

Federer has made 3 consecutive French finals - he would have beaten the likes of Kuertan, Bruguera and JC.

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Post by Paul Keating on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 03:56

Phurt - there is no way that Federer could beat Muster or JC in a five setter in extreme heat at the business end of the tournament.

Let's be honest - today's generation of tennis players aren't good clay courters.
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Re: French Open

Post by JGK on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 03:57

Paul Keating wrote:Phurt - there is no way that Federer could beat Muster or JC in a five setter in extreme heat at the business end of the tournament.

Let's be honest - today's generation of tennis players aren't good clay courters.


Rubbish. I think Nadal is so good that you are struggling to put the rest into perspective.

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Post by Paul Keating on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 04:04

I disagree - today's generation need to be all-rounders and they need to be good on all surfaces - hence they need spend more time training to be able to adapt to all different styles.

Back when there was Costa, Muster, Berasategui, Kuerton and the like. They were out and out clay courters who sometimes only played the Clay court season. These were clay specialists who would slaughter some of today's players.
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Re: French Open

Post by JGK on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 09:37

We can disagree then - Berasategui is the one that stands out for me - he made a couple of French finals (or maybe semis) and I have no doubt he would have struggled to win a set of Federer.

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Re: French Open

Post by rey on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 14:35

Nadal started strongly.
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Re: French Open

Post by JGK on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 14:50

Rafe takes the first 6-1.

This could be an humiliation.

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Re: French Open

Post by Lara Lara Laughs on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 14:54

Head to head record:

* Hard courts: Federer 3-2

* Clay courts: Nadal 8-1

* Grass courts: Federer 2-0

* Grand Slam Finals: Tied 2-2

* Grand Slam Matches (all): Nadal 3-2

* All Tennis Masters Series events: Nadal 5-4

* Tennis Masters Cup: Federer 2-0

* All Finals: Nadal 8-4

* All Matches: Nadal 10-6
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Re: French Open

Post by JGK on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 15:23

Fed chokes on a break point to go up 4-3 in the second set.

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Post by Lara Lara Laughs on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 15:39

This is pretty embarrassing for Federer. 2 sets down now.
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Re: French Open

Post by JGK on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 15:42

And about to go down a break in the 3rd.

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Re: French Open

Post by skully on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 15:43

Nadal is the God of red mud. Give it up Fedex.
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Re: French Open

Post by JGK on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 15:49

RAfa must be a chance at Wimbledon at this rate.

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Re: French Open

Post by Lara Lara Laughs on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 15:53

Do you think Federer's level has dropped or have other players caught up? He's lost loads of times this season.


He's only 26 but I can't see him doing the grand slam in one season anymore.
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Re: French Open

Post by JGK on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 15:55

He's never going to be better than Rafa on clay so he'll never with the GS. He should still with 3 or 4 more slams before he retires taking him to 15+.

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Re: French Open

Post by vilkrang on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 15:56

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Do you think Federer's level has dropped or have other players caught up? He's lost loads of times this season.


He's only 26 but I can't see him doing the grand slam in one season anymore.
To do that he'd have to win the French Open.

You'd have to say that Rafas level would drop one year, but if he did play like this every year then I don't think Federer could match it on clay.

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Re: French Open

Post by JGK on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 16:00

Looking like a bagel for the third set.

Haven't seen a great player humiliated in a final like this since McEnroe thrashed Connors at Wimbledon in 1984.

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Re: French Open

Post by Lara Lara Laughs on Sun 08 Jun 2008, 16:00

Aye, but even if Nadal misses a French Open through injury, I can't see Roger doing the grand slam, can you? I think he'll win more than 4 slams before he retires though. Fed might have peaked a bit too early.

As for Nadal - I can definitely see him being burnt out by his mid-20s. The fact that he never wins any easy points on his serve, plays loads of gruelling clay court tennis, runs like a madman after every point and started playing at such a high level so young make me think he' can't carry on like this forever. If he doesn't "burn out" as such, I can definitely see him fading as he gets older. A bit like Hewitt.

Humiliation for Federer. Nadal's dominated every game apart from about 3 in the second set. 6-1 6-3 and 5-0 in the third.
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