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Re: French Open

Post by PearlJ on Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:03 pm

Tennis is a young mans game anyway..... I can't see Fed ever winning another Grand Slam. Nadal and Djokovic to pick over his pieces.
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Re: French Open

Post by JKLever on Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:04 pm

PearlJ wrote:I can't see Fed ever winning another Grand Slam.

He'll win Wimbledon.
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Re: French Open

Post by Lara Lara Laughs on Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:05 pm

He'll win loads more than Wimbledon. He's far too good to never win another grand slam. Ridiculous statement.
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Re: French Open

Post by PearlJ on Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:08 pm

Nadal - Djok final in Wimbeldon this year. If the draw allows.
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Re: French Open

Post by JGK on Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:15 pm

PearlJ wrote:Nadal - Djok final in Wimbeldon this year. If the draw allows.


Usually 2nd seed plays 3rd doesn't it?

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Re: French Open

Post by PearlJ on Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:23 pm

JGK wrote:
PearlJ wrote:Nadal - Djok final in Wimbeldon this year. If the draw allows.


Usually 2nd seed plays 3rd doesn't it?

Hmm probably. Well I reckon one of those 2 will win.
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Re: French Open

Post by vilkrang on Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:44 pm

PearlJ wrote:I can't see Fed ever winning another Grand Slam.
Then you sir know precious little about tennis I'm afraid!

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Re: French Open

Post by PearlJ on Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:48 pm

vilkrang wrote:
PearlJ wrote:I can't see Fed ever winning another Grand Slam.
Then you sir know precious little about tennis I'm afraid!

Even the BBC pundits reckon he may not win another.
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Re: French Open

Post by vilkrang on Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:58 pm

PearlJ wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
PearlJ wrote:I can't see Fed ever winning another Grand Slam.
Then you sir know precious little about tennis I'm afraid!

Even the BBC pundits reckon he may not win another.
Then they are just as clueless.

The guy has just been beaten by one of the best clay court players of all time in the FINAL of the French Open. I capitalise final to illustrate the fact that he managed to even get there on by far his weakest surface. The only way that he will not win another grand slam would be if he fell victim to a crippling injury, in face I'd go as far as to say that the only way he won't achieve the record for most Grand Slams would be if he fell to injury.

Just because some BBC pundit jumps on a bandwagon after Federer losing in a final does not mean that it will happen. It won't.

Rafa was better on the day and Federer didn't bring his A game. That's all that happened.

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Re: French Open

Post by PearlJ on Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:59 pm

Federer was completely humiliated. It's going to take a bit to come back from that. Nadal and Djok can smell blood......
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Re: French Open

Post by Lara Lara Laughs on Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:05 pm

It will clealy be more competitive from now on. The days of Federer dominating everything may well be finished. But he'll still win the majority of titles for a while yet.
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Re: French Open

Post by vilkrang on Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:11 pm

PearlJ wrote:Federer was completely humiliated. It's going to take a bit to come back from that. Nadal and Djok can smell blood......
You can get odds of 5/2 on Federer not winning another Slam this year. The odds of him not winning another one over his career would be astronomical I would think, so if you truly believe he won't then you should bet on it.

He will though (obviously).

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Re: French Open

Post by Paul Keating on Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:43 am

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Aye, but even if Nadal misses a French Open through injury, I can't see Roger doing the grand slam, can you? I think he'll win more than 4 slams before he retires though. Fed might have peaked a bit too early

How did he peak too early? If anything he was an under-achiever early in his career.
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Re: French Open

Post by Paul Keating on Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:01 am

BTW - a great performance by Rafa. I need to give him more kudos than I do.
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Re: French Open

Post by SG on Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:08 am

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:Who do you think are the top 5 clay courters of all time, SG?
In no particular order,
Rafa Nadal, Jim Courier, Bjorn Borg, Ivan Lendl, Sergi Brugera, and Gustavo Kuerton.

I must say I don't know much about yesteryears clay courters but these are the ones I know about and whom I've seen playing LIVE at Rolland Garros apart from Borg.

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Re: French Open

Post by SG on Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:18 am

I forgot to add Thomas Muster.

And yep, great performance by Nadal, nearly flawless. I think its no shame to lose someone of Nadal's calibre.

For the stats, since his debut in '05 on Rolland Garros, Nadal has won each of his 28 matches. Quite a phenomenal feat I think. Not many would've come close to this streak.

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Re: French Open

Post by Hass on Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:54 am

JGK wrote:Looking like a bagel for the third set.

Haven't seen a great player humiliated in a final like this since McEnroe thrashed Connors at Wimbledon in 1984.

Hewitt humiliated Sampras in the 2001 US Open Final.

It was 7-6 6-1 6-1. Hewitt just blasted Sampras off the court. It's by far the best I've ever seen him play. It's a shame he doesn't play like that these days.

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Re: French Open

Post by Hass on Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:04 am

JGK wrote:Federer has made 3 consecutive French finals - he would have beaten the likes of Kuertan, Bruguera and JC.

I agree.

He mightn't have beaten them this year but the way he played in the 2006 and 2007 finals was enough to convice me he'd have defeated Kuerten and Courier. Bruguera at his peak might have been a stretch (he was the ultimate clay court specialist) but I'd back Federer to beat him 50 per cent of the time.

Pete Sampras never won the French Open because he wasn't good enough on clay. Roger Federer hasn't won the French Open because Rafael Nadal is a genius on the surface.

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Re: French Open

Post by Hass on Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:14 am

For the record:

The last time Federer lost a match at Roland Garros against someone other than Nadal was in 2004 against Kuerten.

He's improved immeasurably on clay since then, but keeps having to play Rafael Nadal.

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Re: French Open

Post by PlanetPakistan on Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:22 pm

Nadal is quite simply the greatest clay court player ever!
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Re: French Open

Post by SG on Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:50 am

And he is quite modest as well. When asked about should not he be the no.1 player in world, he said that he thinks he is closer to no.3 (Jokovic) than no.1 (FedEx).

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Re: French Open

Post by JGK on Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:32 pm

Rafa takes the first set in the virtual final v Joker.

Winner to play Ferrer or Tsonga in the final.

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Re: French Open

Post by Paul Keating on Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:58 pm

The joker wins the second
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Re: French Open

Post by beamer on Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:50 pm

Rafa 9-7 in the fifth... eighth title is his then, barring injury. Could well make double figures, there's perhaps only one man (and one dodgy knee) who can stop him in the near future.

You have to ask where the next generation is though. We've got three of the greatest players of all time, and another in Murray who is just unlucky to be around in the same era. But the rest of the top 10 are generally in their late 20s and early 30s as well, so could these greats be followed by a dismal era of one-Slam wonders and false number ones like the women's game has had recently?

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Re: French Open

Post by beamer on Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:12 pm

And Rahul Dravid Ferrer (The Wall) joins Nadal in the final by beating Jo-Wilf - the French wait goes on.

Can't see him having anything to worry the seven-times winner, despite the rather lighter workload today...

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