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Post by taipan on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 09:36

Nominations?
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Post by Bradman on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 09:52

Well Chappelli was bitter and a legend and Boycs was just bitter and not a legend. You're call.
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Post by taipan on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 09:52

Well there's Gavaskar.
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Post by JKLever on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 09:59

Boycs>Chippell
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Post by taipan on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 10:05

JKLever wrote:Boycs>Chippell

Boycs was bitterer?
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Re: Chapelli/Boycott - Who was a BITTER legend.

Post by Bradman on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 10:07

Well they're both bitter.
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Post by Invader Zim on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 10:36

Bitter? I've have a pint of your best, landlord...
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Post by Bradman on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 10:44

Hey does anyone know when Fed and lleyton play? GAE is chewing my ear.
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Post by Henry on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 10:55

The difference between Boycott and Chappell- Like him or hate him, people listen to what Boycs has to say. Chappelli's rants are more often than not ignored.
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Post by taipan on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 11:05

Henry wrote:The difference between Boycott and Chappell-

the bucket?
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Post by ten years after on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 11:37

Both are legends. Boycott was the better bat. I wouldn't say either is bitter.

Both are too full of themselves for my liking but I have to admit that they achieved enough to justify being critical of what they are watching.

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Post by vilkrang on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 13:17

Bradman wrote:Well Chappelli was bitter and a legend and Boycs was just bitter and not a legend. You're call.
Boycs had a better test average, better FC average, more test centuries, over twice as many FC centuries, more list A centures and more ODI centuries.

I think it's fairly clear who the better player was.

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Post by Bradman on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 13:26

vilkrang wrote:
Bradman wrote:Well Chappelli was bitter and a legend and Boycs was just bitter and not a legend. You're call.
Boycs had a better test average, better FC average, more test centuries, over twice as many FC centuries, more list A centures and more ODI centuries.

I think it's fairly clear who the better player was.

Who would you rather pay money to see?
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Post by vilkrang on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 13:28

Bradman wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
Bradman wrote:Well Chappelli was bitter and a legend and Boycs was just bitter and not a legend. You're call.
Boycs had a better test average, better FC average, more test centuries, over twice as many FC centuries, more list A centures and more ODI centuries.

I think it's fairly clear who the better player was.

Who would you rather pay money to see?
That argument doesn't really define who a better player is though, I'd rather pay money to see Chris Gayle than Shiv, but Shiv is the better player, in test matches anyway.

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Post by Bradman on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 13:35

That's what I mean. You make my argument for me. Though in Boycs case you'd have to look at his contribution to the team under the circumstances.
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Re: Chapelli/Boycott - Who was a BITTER legend.

Post by eowyn on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 13:38

Do you go to entertain the crowd or do the job you're good at that might win your team the game though? We can't all be flashy can we? Sometimes "boring" is a necessity even though it's hard to watch.
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Post by JKLever on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 13:44

Wot she said.
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Re: Chapelli/Boycott - Who was a BITTER legend.

Post by Invader Zim on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 14:02

eowyn wrote:Do you go to entertain the crowd or do the job you're good at that might win your team the game though? We can't all be flashy can we? Sometimes "boring" is a necessity even though it's hard to watch.
Aye. It's called 'sport' and not 'entertainment' for a reason.

The objective is to win the game.
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Re: Chapelli/Boycott - Who was a BITTER legend.

Post by ten years after on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 14:27

Bradman wrote:
vilkrang wrote:
Bradman wrote:Well Chappelli was bitter and a legend and Boycs was just bitter and not a legend. You're call.
Boycs had a better test average, better FC average, more test centuries, over twice as many FC centuries, more list A centures and more ODI centuries.

I think it's fairly clear who the better player was.

Who would you rather pay money to see?

Boycott any day. The supreme master of defensive batting - one of the great arts of cricket (but unfortunately now lost).

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Post by taipan on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 21:07

Invader Zim wrote:
eowyn wrote:Do you go to entertain the crowd or do the job you're good at that might win your team the game though? We can't all be flashy can we? Sometimes "boring" is a necessity even though it's hard to watch.
Aye. It's called 'sport' and not 'entertainment' for a reason.

The objective is to win the game.

And that is why it is called test cricket.
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Re: Chapelli/Boycott - Who was a BITTER legend.

Post by Basil on Fri 04 Sep 2009, 21:12

ten years after wrote:Both are legends. Boycott was the better bat. I wouldn't say either is bitter.

Both are too full of themselves for my liking but I have to admit that they achieved enough to justify being critical of what they are watching.


What TYA said.
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Post by PeterCS on Sat 05 Sep 2009, 00:16

There are a lot of bitter ex-pros.

Bitter that they didn't get the cash and/or the recognition of later players, the number of caps they felt they deserved, and/or were blocked by the gentlemen's club/favouritisms, .... etc.

Or all of the above.
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Re: Chapelli/Boycott - Who was a BITTER legend.

Post by JGK on Mon 13 Nov 2017, 23:00

He's officially gone senile.

No Waugh, AB at 24. Beefy at 14. What a bitter qunt.

Ian Chappell leaves Steve Waugh out of top 25 Ashes players, calls him selfish
CRICKETd November 11, 2017

Ian Chappell has ranked his top 25 Ashes players since 1972 and left out former Australian captain Steve Waugh, calling him 'selfish' in the process.

Chappell selected the 25 players based on 'eye-test', and despite not including Steve, somehow managed to fit in Waugh's brother Mark at number 19, and his own brother Greg at number 3.



"Cricket is not a statistical exercise and I didnít want selfish players on my team, hence the absence of Geoff Boycott and Steve Waugh," Chappell wrote in The Daily Telegraph.

Steve Waugh played 168 Test matches for Australia (equal first with Ricky Ponting), captaining his country in 57 matches for 41 wins (second behind Ponting).

This includes being captain in two Ashes series, with eight victories coming from nine Tests.

Waugh also led Australia to 16 Test match victories in a row between 1999 and 2001, a world record that Ponting later equalled.

The 74-year-old commentator also listed the powerful Ian 'Beefy' Botham at number 14, a little lower than cricket tragics would have thought when considering the all-rounder's talents.

"I donít rate Botham as highly as some because he was a bully-boy cricketer; he excelled against opponents who allowed him to push them around," Chappell said.

Other notable players that Chappell left out include: Andrew Flintoff, Matthew Hayden, Michael Clarke, Stuart Broad, Michael Vaughan, Mark Taylor and Michael Hussey.

Chappell's list can be seen below:

1. Dennis Lillee

2. Shane Warne

3. Greg Chappell

4. Ricky Ponting

5. Glenn McGrath

6. James Anderson

7. Adam Gilchrist

8. Doug Walters

9. David Warner

10. Kevin Pietersen

11. Jeff Thomson

12. Steve Smith

13. Joe Root

14. Ian Botham

15. Ben Stokes

16. Rod Marsh

17. Alan Knott

18. Ian Healy

19. Mark Waugh

20. David Gower

21. Greme Swann

22. Michael Slater

23. Mitchell Johnson

24. Allan Border

25. Alistair Cook


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Post by Bradman on Mon 13 Nov 2017, 23:12

Mitch Johnson at 23? Was he taking a year off dead for tax reasons that summer?
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Re: Chapelli/Boycott - Who was a BITTER legend.

Post by JGK on Mon 13 Nov 2017, 23:17

To be fair, he's probably got 1 and 2 right.

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