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Re: Books and Beer

Post by Bradman on Fri 25 Sep 2009, 04:38

Still no idea. Are you trying to give me a tip?
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by G.Wood on Fri 25 Sep 2009, 04:47

Put your cursor over the pink words and it will take you to another web site

(I never know if you playing dim or just a bit electronically challenged)
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by Bradman on Fri 25 Sep 2009, 04:53

I did that. It's the form guide from today's Herald Sun. And I'm still confused over relevance, and I am electronically challenged. Why would I pay (well used to) for a secretary if I could do anything but email myself.
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by simkat on Fri 25 Sep 2009, 05:31

I wasn't sure why the link was posted, either. But thanks for the explanation, Bradman. aces

I love all the logistics stuff. I read Lifeblood Of War - Logistics in Armed Conflict a few years ago which was a great read - the logistics of supply issue comes up over and over again in the books I've read.





I went for a browse in Dymocks last night. I forgot to take my list with me and the assistant said she couldn't do key-word searches ( columbo ) so I ended up buying:

Human Smoke - The Beginnings of World War II, The End of Civilization




And Antony Beevor's Stalingrad.

There's probably a lot of Human Smoke that is going to be heart-breaking to read No
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by Bradman on Fri 25 Sep 2009, 06:17

"The idiot child has the matches". Great quote.
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by furriner on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 01:10



Still reading it, it's typical Ellroy. Good to know that he hasn't dropped off.

For my money Ellroy is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, crime/ fiction writers ever. Along with Elmore Leonard.

Certainly, IMO, the greatest crime sequence/ books with the same theme ever written was by Ellory - The LA Quartet, of which the books are:

The Black Dahlia
The Big Nowhere
L.A. Confidential
White Jazz

Books 2-4 are the best.
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by furriner on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 01:18



and,



Which was ...meh..., and,



Which was good, verry good, better than I thought it'd be although Pressfield is occasionally maudlin, and, re-read



Which was as good as it was when I first read it.

Well, these were a few of the better books the last few days.


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Re: Books and Beer

Post by DJ_Smerk on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 01:20

Furriner, it appears you are very learned. Can you teach me?
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by furriner on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 01:21

DJ_Smerk wrote:Furriner, it appears you are very learned. Can you teach me?

Snigger.

Smerky, I'm just a jagoff that likes to read.
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by DJ_Smerk on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 01:25

Hats off to you aye-aye
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by furriner on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 01:35

And I forgot to ask..since you find my ideas interesting, would you like to subscribe to my newsletter? Wink

I've wanted to say that for a while. Laughing
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by DJ_Smerk on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 01:37

Hmmm, I'll sleep on it and get back to you.
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by furriner on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 01:51

Cheers Smerky.

I also read this guy, or re-read after a decade I think:



Poetry is the supreme fiction, madame.
Take the moral law and make a nave of it


or, his best ever poem, pasting it in part, IMO the first ten lines are music like nothing else. Or at least nothing else I've read.

Sunday Morning:

I
Complacencies of the peignoir, and late
Coffee and oranges in a sunny chair,
And the green freedom of a cockatoo
Upon a rug mingle to dissipate
The holy hush of ancient sacrifice.
She dreams a little, and she feels the dark
Encroachment of that old catastrophe,
As a calm darkness among water-lights.
The pungent oranges and bright, green wings
Seem things in some procession of the dead,
Winding across wide water, without sound.
The day is like wide water, without sound,
Stilled for the passing of her dreaming feet
Over the seas, to silent Palestine,
Dominion of the blood and sepulchre.
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by simkat on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 05:33

I've just started reading Stalingrad

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Re: Books and Beer

Post by footwork on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 11:35

furriner wrote:Cheers Smerky.

I also read this guy, or re-read after a decade I think:



Poetry is the supreme fiction, madame.
Take the moral law and make a nave of it


or, his best ever poem, pasting it in part, IMO the first ten lines are music like nothing else. Or at least nothing else I've read.

Sunday Morning:

I
Complacencies of the peignoir, and late
Coffee and oranges in a sunny chair,
And the green freedom of a cockatoo
Upon a rug mingle to dissipate
The holy hush of ancient sacrifice.
She dreams a little, and she feels the dark
Encroachment of that old catastrophe,
As a calm darkness among water-lights.
The pungent oranges and bright, green wings
Seem things in some procession of the dead,
Winding across wide water, without sound.
The day is like wide water, without sound,
Stilled for the passing of her dreaming feet
Over the seas, to silent Palestine,
Dominion of the blood and sepulchre.


Such beauty in them thar words. You could enjoy them for the sound alone.

And a little aside:
He used 'and' several times in the first sentence, which gives it a relaxed, meandering feel.
You should be able to start a bloody sentence with 'and' if you bloody want to.
Having been told constantly not to, it Never upsets me...

To Kill a Mockingbird - I read it when I was little and I still love reading it. Atticus Finch is the most satisfying hero.
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by tac on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 12:15

Oh dear . . .
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by footwork on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 12:18

What!!?
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by tac on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 12:21

fw, are you a chick? If so, I understand the Atticus Finch thing. If not, FFs!
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by Invader Zim on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 12:33

Currently reading Titus Groan...

...and drinking Bloody Marys.
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by footwork on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 12:48

tac wrote:fw, are you a chick? If so, I understand the Atticus Finch thing. If not, FFs!



Yes I'm a chick. A female of the girlie persuasion.

Even so, doncha think universal principles should be admired by both sexes?
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by tac on Sat 10 Oct 2009, 12:50

No, not in this case. While the sexes may well be equal in many ways, there is a certain "feminine" note in certain literature that makes it a bit hard to stomach for the rest of us . . .
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by furriner on Mon 12 Oct 2009, 21:27

footwork wrote:.................
Such beauty in them thar words. You could enjoy them for the sound alone.

Lovely, innit? I don't 'get' English poetry for all that I read it a long time ago, not like I 'get' Hindi or Urdu poetry, so have learned to make do with my ears, i.e. the sound and rhythm, when I'm reading English 'pomes'.

footwork wrote:To Kill a Mockingbird - I read it when I was little and I still love reading it. Atticus Finch is the most satisfying hero.

I read it a while ago; it's funny that the book, in retropspect, has left no impression on me. I do not mean it in a derogatory way; usually I have a strong reaction to books, especially those supposed to be good/ great. Whereas 'Mockingbird' is just a blank in my memory. scratch
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by footwork on Mon 12 Oct 2009, 22:21

Homer Simpson didn't like the book at all, because when all was said and done, it 'didn't teach Anyone how to kill mockingbirds.'
I guess it's a novel of simple things, interspersed with huge principles.


Medea by Euripides. (Are plays acceptable in this here thread?) I guess the notion of killing innocents to exact revenge, is still with us today. She was a bloodthirsty piece of work, that one.
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by Lara Lara Laughs on Tue 13 Oct 2009, 01:07

You'd have to be slightly mad to think that Atticus and his actions are not highly admirable.

I read TKAMB at school. It's a lovely book. Shame she didn't write anything else. I remember there was some speculation that Truman Capote wrote most of it for his friend. No idea how true that was.
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Re: Books and Beer

Post by furriner on Tue 13 Oct 2009, 01:45

footwork wrote:........

Medea by Euripides. (Are plays acceptable in this here thread?) I guess the notion of killing innocents to exact revenge, is still with us today. She was a bloodthirsty piece of work, that one.

Only if one follows the 'format' Smile

Which is:

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