Gayle number 1 ODI bat, Shiv number 1 Test bat and yet......

we still lose almost every match we play. That just sums up West Indies cricket over the last decade. Some fantastic individuals, but no success at all.

ICC rankings

Look who is the # 2 batsman in tests

Sums up BOTH Pakistan and WI cricket

PlanetPakistan wrote:Look who is the # 2 batsman in tests

Sums up BOTH Pakistan and WI cricket

Yep, very true. I fear for your blood pressure PP, supporting Pakistan and the West Indies cannot be good for your health!

PlanetPakistan wrote:Look who is the # 2 batsman in tests

Sums up BOTH Pakistan and WI cricket

It makes a bit of a mockery of either the rankings, or the batsmen of the last year that Yousuf is STILL up there. Probably both.

Gayle just needs a touch more temperament because I think the Sixes tend to go to his head and he feels every ball is a boundary.

He needs to take a step back during each knock and just gain some composure so he doesn't throw his wicket away like he's done so often in the past.

I understand it's like telling Pietersen to slow down and grind rather than attack...but you know, sh!t happens.

Now both Yousuf and Younis are on top with 880 points but they took Yousuf of the list

WIFAN wrote:

PlanetPakistan wrote:Look who is the # 2 batsman in tests

Sums up BOTH Pakistan and WI cricket

Yep, very true. I fear for your blood pressure PP, supporting Pakistan and the West Indies cannot be good for your health!

Tell us England fans about it.

Rob I wrote:

WIFAN wrote:

PlanetPakistan wrote:Look who is the # 2 batsman in tests

Sums up BOTH Pakistan and WI cricket

Yep, very true. I fear for your blood pressure PP, supporting Pakistan and the West Indies cannot be good for your health!

Tell us England fans about it.

England might be playing badly now, but the suffering of England fans over the last 10 years has been nothing compared to West Indies fans. At least you have been competitive, and at least you play a lot of test cricket (unlike cricket starved Pakistani fans).

There are definately a lot of similarites between Pakistan and WI

- Great fast bowlers
- Flamboyant batsmen
- Osciallating teams
- Needless controversies
- Rubbish domestic structure and boards
- Rubbish pitches these days
- Overall win percentage is also quite similar (53.6 for PAK and 51 for WI in tests and 55% for PAK and 56 for WI in ODIs)

"we still lose almost every match we play. "

That seems a grim assessment. You're actually on quite a non-losing streak at present.

We're in a really uninspiring period of cricket if you ask me. Just look at some of those names.

but they took Yousuf of the list

Probably because he hasn't played any test for Pak for sometime now, more than acceptable time limit.

makes no sense because he is still on the ODI rankings list....

anyways these ranking are a waste of time.

"makes no sense because he is still on the ODI rankings list...."

He played an ODI about six months ago, whereas it has been 14 months since he played a test.

OP Tipping wrote:"makes no sense because he is still on the ODI rankings list...."

He played an ODI about six months ago, whereas it has been 14 months since he played a test.

Exactly.

OP Tipping wrote:"makes no sense because he is still on the ODI rankings list...."

He played an ODI about six months ago, whereas it has been 14 months since he played a test.

makes it even more silly

WIFAN wrote:Gayle number 1 ODI bat, Shiv number 1 Test bat and yet......
we still lose almost every match we play.

ICC rankings

WIFAN,

You very well know that matches are won or lost by a team and just one individual just can't do much, don't you?

PlanetPakistan wrote:- Overall win percentage is also quite similar (53.6 for PAK and 51 for WI in tests and 55% for PAK and 56 for WI in ODIs)

The ODI stats are seriously skewed by playing minnows.

Pakistan

v Australia 74 11 45 18 27 43 1 3 38.73%
v Bangladesh 25 11 8 6 24 1 0 0 96.00%
v Canada 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 100.00%
v England 63 19 31 13 26 35 0 2 42.62%
v Hong Kong 2 1 0 1 2 0 0 0 100.00%
v India 117 27 26 64 68 45 0 4 60.18%
v Ireland 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0.00%
v Kenya 5 0 3 2 5 0 0 0 100.00%
v Namibia 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 100.00%
v Netherlands 3 1 0 2 3 0 0 0 100.00%
v New Zealand 78 20 34 24 47 29 1 1 61.69%
v South Africa 52 15 21 16 16 35 0 1 31.37%
v Scotland 2 0 1 1 2 0 0 0 100.00%
v Sri Lanka 114 28 21 65 68 42 1 3 61.71%
v U.A.E. 2 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 100.00%
v West Indies 113 26 20 67 47 64 2 0 42.48%
v Zimbabwe 40 16 12 12 36 2 1 1 93.59%

Total 693 176 223 294 375 297 6 15 55.75%

Windies

Matches P Home Away Neut W L T NR Percent

v Australia 119 36 70 13 57 58 2 2 49.57%
v Bangladesh 13 4 5 4 11 0 0 2 100.00%
v Bermuda 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 100.00%
v Canada 3 0 2 1 3 0 0 0 100.00%
v England 75 28 30 17 39 32 0 4 54.93%
v India 90 20 38 32 53 35 1 1 60.11%
v Ireland 2 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 100.00%
v Kenya 6 0 3 3 5 1 0 0 83.33%
v Netherlands 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 100.00%
v New Zealand 51 16 23 12 24 20 0 7 54.55%
v Pakistan 113 20 26 67 64 47 2 0 57.52%
v South Africa 45 16 21 8 12 32 0 1 27.27%
v Scotland 2 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 100.00%
v Sri Lanka 46 9 8 29 26 18 0 2 59.09%
v Zimbabwe 36 9 11 16 27 8 0 1 77.14%

Total 603 159 238 206 326 251 5 21 56.44%

Chandan wrote:

WIFAN wrote:Gayle number 1 ODI bat, Shiv number 1 Test bat and yet......
we still lose almost every match we play.

ICC rankings

WIFAN,

You very well know that matches are won or lost by a team and just one individual just can't do much, don't you?

Yep, that was my point in starting this thread. Of course we have been performing more like a team in the last 2 weeks and the results have been good.

taipan wrote:

PlanetPakistan wrote:- Overall win percentage is also quite similar (53.6 for PAK and 51 for WI in tests and 55% for PAK and 56 for WI in ODIs)

The ODI stats are seriously skewed by playing minnows.

Pakistan

v Australia 74 11 45 18 27 43 1 3 38.73%
v Bangladesh 25 11 8 6 24 1 0 0 96.00%
v Canada 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 100.00%
v England 63 19 31 13 26 35 0 2 42.62%
v Hong Kong 2 1 0 1 2 0 0 0 100.00%
v India 117 27 26 64 68 45 0 4 60.18%
v Ireland 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0.00%
v Kenya 5 0 3 2 5 0 0 0 100.00%
v Namibia 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 100.00%
v Netherlands 3 1 0 2 3 0 0 0 100.00%
v New Zealand 78 20 34 24 47 29 1 1 61.69%
v South Africa 52 15 21 16 16 35 0 1 31.37%
v Scotland 2 0 1 1 2 0 0 0 100.00%
v Sri Lanka 114 28 21 65 68 42 1 3 61.71%
v U.A.E. 2 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 100.00%
v West Indies 113 26 20 67 47 64 2 0 42.48%
v Zimbabwe 40 16 12 12 36 2 1 1 93.59%

Total 693 176 223 294 375 297 6 15 55.75%

even if you remove the extra 15 games or so against the minnows the win percentage would still be similar.

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