Re: England Player Ratings

by Brass Monkey Mon 18 Jan 2010, 13:27

If his 'role' wasn't to smack it from number 9, I'd warrant he could average around his current one for a while. The problem with him is he simply doesn't try to cut out the shots that get him out. Gotta love a Swanny knock.

by Red Mon 18 Jan 2010, 13:35

Looks as if he should bat above Broad.

by JKLever Mon 18 Jan 2010, 13:43

Brass Monkey wrote:If his 'role' wasn't to smack it from number 9, I'd warrant he could average around his current one for a while. The problem with him is he simply doesn't try to cut out the shots that get him out. Gotta love a Swanny knock.

Yep, he can do a fair bit of damage from down there. If our top order actually set the innings up properly he can turn a good total into a dominating one in the space of a dozen overs.

Re, batting below Broad. Yep he's probably the better biffer atm but Broad tends to stick around a bit longer with top order players. Have a feeling that England think batting Broad lower will stifle his potential with the bat - it's not like he gets a chance to do much batting in FC cricket so it's a case of 'on the job' for him. And Swanny is mostly coming off from number 9 so why change it anyhow...

by Brass Monkey Mon 18 Jan 2010, 14:07

Maybe because Broad doesn't score a great deal of runs.

by JKLever Mon 18 Jan 2010, 14:27

Not in this series, no. But he has the same amount of test 50's.

No need to change atm. It's not the lower order batting that was the poorest anyway

by Growler Mon 18 Jan 2010, 14:44

Henry wrote:What do we do about Anderson?

well, since he's been our leading wicket taker in that time - and 4th leading wicket taker in the world - I'd suggest we hope the rest when we tour Banglades allows him to regain full fitness, then continue picking him.

For all of the talk of him now being the leader of England's attack, he still averages mid 30's in the last 3 years.

So ? When was the last time we had a sub-30 bowler for 3 years continuously? He played the last 1 1/2 tests v Aus last summer injured, and it wrecked otherwise decent series figures. He had a knee niggle of some sort at the start of the SA tour - it was obvious that he's never been absolutely 100% fit for the tests. Again he was our most successful quick in the series, with figures again badly damaged by one game.

There is always one good performance every series surrounded by averageness. I'd consider dropping him for Plunkett.

I'd consider it too .... for about a nanosecond before realising it was a daft idea.

by Shoeshine Mon 18 Jan 2010, 16:40

JKLever wrote:Not in this series, no. But he has the same amount of test 50's.

No need to change atm. It's not the lower order batting that was the poorest anyway

Blame the bowlers for not getting enough runs FTW. aye-aye

by horace Wed 20 Jan 2010, 06:47

Merlin wrote:I'd say that Swann was the better all rounder than Broad overall (and not just because of his performance this series).... yet Broadjr gets all the plaudits!

its the royal family's deal with fleet st...ever noted the resemblance broad has to the royal kiddies

by Red Wed 20 Jan 2010, 07:20

horace wrote:
Merlin wrote:I'd say that Swann was the better all rounder than Broad overall (and not just because of his performance this series).... yet Broadjr gets all the plaudits!

its the royal family's deal with fleet st...ever noted the resemblance broad has to the royal kiddies

Many think that Morne Morkel is a bit of a dead-ringer for Prince Will.

by skully Wed 20 Jan 2010, 07:51

JKLever wrote:Like father like son. Chris usually required the absence of all 3 stumps before scraping himself away from the middle....

Can't believe no-one jumped on this. Even when out, Dad made sure all three stumps were out of the ground. There is defo a petulant streak in the genes. Cool

by Merlin Wed 20 Jan 2010, 08:06

horace wrote:
Merlin wrote:I'd say that Swann was the better all rounder than Broad overall (and not just because of his performance this series).... yet Broadjr gets all the plaudits!

its the royal family's deal with fleet st...ever noted the resemblance broad has to the royal kiddies

Eh ??
Another pearl from the left field genius that is the old Roman!

Where the hell do you think up these gems horace ... in the Hoodie from Wozzie's back yard?

by JKLever Wed 20 Jan 2010, 10:53

skully wrote:
JKLever wrote:Like father like son. Chris usually required the absence of all 3 stumps before scraping himself away from the middle....
Can't believe no-one jumped on this. Even when out, Dad made sure all three stumps were out of the ground. There is defo a petulant streak in the genes.

Heh, that was the bicentennial test in 88 I think. You would think he'd dragged on for nought rather than another ton.

Amazing to think in 89' he was dropped after the 2nd test (with 4 tons v aus in his last 7 games) for the might of Tim Curtis.

by horace Thu 21 Jan 2010, 00:40

Merls - ya silly old tory...the pomgolian aristocracy is full of folk born on the wrong side of the blanket...can it be helped if various royal and pomgolian criketers resemble certain ex royal guardsman - ya could read their tell all (i am a cad) stories

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