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Post by *Buckaroo* Sun 01 Mar 2009, 05:25

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/70464/Asian-terror-gangs-target-UK-with-killer-heroin

why are these people being addressed as 'Asian' when these wonderful people infesting populating your beautyful land are clearly from Pakistan ?

ASIAN TERROR GANGS TARGET UK WITH KILLER HEROIN

TERROR chiefs plan to flood our streets with heroin in a terrifying plot to wage “chemical jihad” on Britain.

And they have been using hate-filled Muslim gangs as their UK dealers. Pakistani and Afghan-based al-Qaida and Taliban warlords are sitting on a £6billion stash of deadly heroin. And they have ordered their dealers to sell it only to non-Muslims.

The US has already been ­targeted in the evil campaign which mirrors a terror plot in the new James Bond novel Devil May Care. Between 1990 and 2005 Taliban-linked drug peddler Haji Baz Mohammed raked in a staggering £17billion by pouring heroin into North America.


“The big bosses have Taliban and al-Qaida connections and we’re often told only to deal it to non-Muslims. They call it ­chemical jihad and hope to ruin lives while ­getting massive payouts at the same time.

One of the Asian gangs is the so-called Gambino clan – a 100-strong mob named after the ­notorious US crime family. A 40-year-old small-time dealer turned Christian told us: “The Gambinos are the Pakistani Muslim gang that control most of the drug trade in Luton – and they’ve all got good connections to al-Qaida.

Asian gangs are operating in South London, Luton, Preston, Manchester, Leeds, Oldham, Birmingham and Bradford.

Why slur everyone with the 'Asian' tag when obviously it is one particular group that is hell bent on destroying their hosts and repaying hospitality ? ehh ?


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Post by OP Tipping Sun 01 Mar 2009, 07:57

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Post by *Buckaroo* Sun 01 Mar 2009, 15:54

aha .. so it is a AS plot to defame subis riding on the back of usual culprits.

they are given a free hand to what they do best and in turn everyone (atleast every subi) gets tarred by their misdemeanour.

Should have realized this
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Post by mynah Sun 01 Mar 2009, 17:03

"Pakistani and Afghani" is much harder to fit into a headline than "Asian", and, as both countries are in Asia, the latter isn't inaccurate.
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Post by doremi Sun 01 Mar 2009, 20:20

Never really could think of myself as an Asian, or of India as a Asian country.
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Post by Zat Sun 01 Mar 2009, 20:50

doremi wrote:Never really could think of myself as an Asian, or of India as a Asian country.
Even though India is part of Asia?

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Post by *Buckaroo* Sun 01 Mar 2009, 21:15

Are Turks Europeans ?

Where does Europe seperate from Asia ?

There is no single defining sea or featrue or seperation that seperates Europe from Asia yet these people find a way to exhibit their pompous and false ego by calling a landmass that is very much part of Asia as a 'seperate continent' Laughing .
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Post by freddled gruntbuggly Sun 01 Mar 2009, 21:27

Turkey is considered to be part of the 'Middle East'. Greece, however, is in Europe. There's your division.
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Post by Guest Sun 01 Mar 2009, 21:29

I thought part of Turkey was considered to be in Asia. That's what the tour guide said.

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Post by freddled gruntbuggly Sun 01 Mar 2009, 21:32

The Middle East is considered to be in Asia.
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Post by Eric Air Emu Sun 01 Mar 2009, 21:34

I'm going to be more discerning when it comes to choosing my heroin dealer from now on.
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Post by freddled gruntbuggly Sun 01 Mar 2009, 21:35

Racist.
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Post by Guest Sun 01 Mar 2009, 22:22

Might do the country some good. If the price of heroin comes down, the junkies will be doing fewer robberies to pay for their gear. So there will be a net crime drop.

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Post by freddled gruntbuggly Sun 01 Mar 2009, 22:27

Just a few more dead people. Nothing about which to worry.
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Post by Guest Sun 01 Mar 2009, 22:28

Who will die?

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Post by freddled gruntbuggly Sun 01 Mar 2009, 22:39

A lot of addicts do, you know. Plus there's always 'collateral damage' from the turf wars.
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Post by Guest Mon 02 Mar 2009, 00:13

I don't think there will be more addicts if the supply increases. I keep saying SmithKline should manufacture it and medical centres sell it cheaply with free needles. That'll get rid of the turf wars too.

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Post by The One Mon 02 Mar 2009, 00:19

the brits making opium legal in china didnt help the country too much. heroin being freely available in afghanistan/pakistan is not a pleasant situation for the government or people either

certain classes of drugs need to be illegal, heroin is one of them

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Post by *Buckaroo* Mon 02 Mar 2009, 02:13

freddled gruntbuggly wrote:Turkey is considered to be part of the 'Middle East'. Greece, however, is in Europe. There's your division.

the division is more psychological rather than geographical, since Turkey is not Christian whereas Greece is.

Turkey is connected by landmass to Europe.

Ok .. another query ... is Georgia (the one near Abkhazia and Russia) part of Europe ?

Is Chechnya part of Europe ?
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Post by LeFromage Mon 02 Mar 2009, 06:08

Rob I wrote:I don't think there will be more addicts if the supply increases. I keep saying SmithKline should manufacture it and medical centres sell it cheaply with free needles. That'll get rid of the turf wars too.

Word. Medicinal heroin, diamorphine, is relatively harmless when applied in controlled doses and with clean needles. Long-term use is considered less corrosive to a person's physical health than sugar, for instance.

But that's the "good stuff".

Prohibition, like it did with alcohol, has merely put the manufacturing and selling of heroin into the hands of criminals, who cut their drug with all kinds of crap - sand, miscellaneous pills - to make it stretch further, creating a "moonshine" that has no such thing as a controlled dose as the random production of it means the buyer has no way of knowing if they're getting a bag of mostly grit and crushed Aspirin, or a huge hit of heroin that will make them overdose.

But "let's legalise heroin" isn't a vote-winner, so no government will ever consider it and will instead continue to pump billions of pounds into a global "War On Drugs" programme which has failed, is failing and will always fail as the simple truth is that ordinary, every-day, mostly decent people have created the market. If there was no demand, there'd be no supply.
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Post by eowyn Mon 02 Mar 2009, 08:52

Morphine is still one of the best pain relief drugs there is and patients given morphine don't become addicted.
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Post by G.Wood Mon 02 Mar 2009, 08:54

eowyn wrote:Morphine is still one of the best pain relief drugs there is .

Too farking right. Except for the vomitting business - but that's a small price to pay
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Post by doctorspin Mon 02 Mar 2009, 13:54

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Rob I wrote:I don't think there will be more addicts if the supply increases. I keep saying SmithKline should manufacture it and medical centres sell it cheaply with free needles. That'll get rid of the turf wars too.

Word. Medicinal heroin, diamorphine, is relatively harmless when applied in controlled doses and with clean needles. Long-term use is considered less corrosive to a person's physical health than sugar, for instance.

But that's the "good stuff".

Prohibition, like it did with alcohol, has merely put the manufacturing and selling of heroin into the hands of criminals, who cut their drug with all kinds of crap - sand, miscellaneous pills - to make it stretch further, creating a "moonshine" that has no such thing as a controlled dose as the random production of it means the buyer has no way of knowing if they're getting a bag of mostly grit and crushed Aspirin, or a huge hit of heroin that will make them overdose.

But "let's legalise heroin" isn't a vote-winner, so no government will ever consider it and will instead continue to pump billions of pounds into a global "War On Drugs" programme which has failed, is failing and will always fail as the simple truth is that ordinary, every-day, mostly decent people have created the market. If there was no demand, there'd be no supply.

This is all quite correct.

I worked in the addictions speciality under the President of The International Board of Narcotics control...so there.

There is indeed an irony that the opiates of which Heroin (diamorphine) is one, is fairly safe if taken correctly. Unlike all other psychoactive drugs (cannabis, cocaine, alcohol) it does not affect the mind adversely, does not cause psychosis and its addiction is relatively harmless compared to say alcohol which has a 15-30% mortality rate if untreated. Opiate withdrawl is extremely unpleasant, but won't kill you.

And physically, if the drug is pure and the needles are clean, then so long as you don't take too much (it will stop you breathing) it will not do you any physical damage, unlike sugar, salt or KFC/McDonalds.

Yes..ironic indeed
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Post by horace Mon 02 Mar 2009, 14:02

i'd legalise the opiates and make supply free...but would require segregation of users..the one thing I would ban is goddiness, a far more dangerous personality disorder
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Post by Batman Mon 02 Mar 2009, 16:58

The CIA has many plans in the sub-continent. One is to keep India pegged by by allowing tensions with Pak to foster so they can use leverage on Pak in the 'war against terror'. Another is to slowly eradicate the Talibani drug networks in USA and NATO alliance countries, so their citizens are spared and direct a majority of the Taliban produce goes into India. For this, active support to Pak will be given internally and there are many concessions still being offered to Pak even though the USA has identified it as a global hotbed for terrorism, as a result. India is too naive politically and diplomatically to see the full deck of cards being dealt to her, thanks to the brainless corrupt politicians we have. Unfortunately the kind of fools and greedy power hungry politicians we have means we have a Parliament full of blind fools who cannot see the bigger picture and clamour for any and all endorsement they get from Uncle Sam and their cronies.

A subtle war to keep us pegged back as a Global economic powerhouse has been on for decades now. The whole country's education system has also been corrupted into thinking that only jobs and careers abroad are worth striving for. American and British companies for long poached on our brightest management students from institutes of technical and management excellence in the name of 'Campus' placements, with multi-million pay package offers, lured and used them to exploit our poor and large markets to earn billions to take away out of our country, thereby depriving us of our own best brains from being used for our own benefit and by our own Govts who could not make such large financial offers. Until Indian companies last decade acquired financial muscle power to turn the tables on them.

It is my belief that the 1994 Mr Universe and Miss World titles that India won were no coin-cidence but corporate jury rigging by the US led western market leaders to enter and exploit the vast untapped Indian beauty market. Playing dirty and exploiting us has been a long process and now when the shoe is on the other foot, and the game's controls finding newer hands from India, these Govts want a cap on the number of Indians and their companies who can do business outside India.

These companies have bribed a lot of our corrupt leaders to mine our forest resources leading to a fast depletion of our ground water table, our environment degraded and wasted, while billions of dollars worth of profits fly out of the country. There is a plan now to even 'adopt' our national monuments, heritage sites in the name of 'preservation' and 'conservation' and 'manage' our national rivers in the name of 'privatization'. Sadly our Govt is busy celebrating Oscars for a movie where our poor people living in slums are called 'dogs' in the movie title and we rejoice this abuse, this insult with national pride. So while Obama and co. have no shame in exploiting our resources in a 'free trade' world, they have no issues cracking down on companies on their soil who wish to outsource jobs to our country.
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