Re: Australian Politics: Libs Go Crazy

by Bradman Sat 28 Nov 2009, 02:38

Whichever way it works out we're talking schism. The funny thing is Rudd can use this as a trigger then ignore it post DD and let the Libs firther implode, if there's anything left of them to implode.

by Mick Sawyer Sat 28 Nov 2009, 04:40

Hass wrote:The thing is the anti-ETS crowd made their own bed when they gave Turnbull permission to negotiate ammendments.

Had they opposed it then, (and I'm talking Abbott etc. here) it would have given Turnbull some hope of coming up with an alternative policy. Perhaps it could have been a revenue neutral carbon tax with minor compensation for industry (giving them a policy to reduce carbon emissions that couldn't be classified as a tax grab - you'd think many of the climate change skeptics could have lived with that).

But no, they let Turnbull walk all the way to the edge before staging a revolt when they didn't get their way.

Quite simply it has been a disgraceful act of political treachery and bastardry by the anti-Turnbull forces. The party is now at war with itself and it is all their fault.

aye to all that. Minchin is a snake and Abbott was always going to make a ugly grab at some point.

by Big Dog Sat 28 Nov 2009, 07:02

lardbucket wrote:Turnbull is an unelectable tosser, and there is no hope for the Liberal party while he remains in Parliament. It doesn't matter who replaces him at this point.

True, & the sad thing is that everyone will suffer because of it. The country needs a strong opposition to keep the glory seeking, power hungry, control freak little ****** we have as a PM in check before he totally farks the economy & turns everyone into welfare dependant paupers.

by Mick Sawyer Sat 28 Nov 2009, 08:43

The country needs a strong opposition to keep the glory seeking, power hungry, control freak little ****** we have as a PM in check before he totally farks the economy & turns everyone into welfare dependant paupers.

We've elected a new Prime Minister since then BD. Relax.

by PeterCS Sat 28 Nov 2009, 11:27

Bring back the Lizard.

by Hass Sat 28 Nov 2009, 13:35

Lardy and Big Dog. How the hell is Turnbull "unelectable"?

He's one of the most naturally electable people I've seen.

The problem is he's a first term opposition leader trying to control a dysfunctional party while competing against a very popular prime minister. .

No Liberal leader is electable at the next federal poll. But it's absolutely no contest that Turnbull would be the most electable in the poll after that.

by Mick Sawyer Sat 28 Nov 2009, 23:32

PeterCS wrote:Bring back the Lizard.

The true architect of our relative prosperity.

by Invader Zim Sat 28 Nov 2009, 23:52

To paraphrase bodyline, the next liberal PM isn't even in parliament yet.

by lardbucket Sun 29 Nov 2009, 10:52

Hass wrote:Lardy and Big Dog. How the hell is Turnbull "unelectable"?

He's one of the most naturally electable people I've seen.

The problem is he's a first term opposition leader trying to control a dysfunctional party while competing against a very popular prime minister. .

No Liberal leader is electable at the next federal poll. But it's absolutely no contest that Turnbull would be the most electable in the poll after that.

Turnbull is one of the least electable, least inspiring individuals I've ever seen. He turns people off in droves. Australians will never elect a mealy-mouthed, smug, supercilious, superior, millionaire lawyer wanker to the highest office in the land. The sooner the Libs are shot of him the sooner they can find someone who actually is electable - until then, the Liberal opposition cannot be taken seriously as an alternative government.

by Invader Zim Sun 29 Nov 2009, 11:00

Aye. He almost single-handedly scuppered the Republic vote, and now he's rooting the Libs.

Looks likely to be Abbot v Turnbull on Tuesday...a dream ticket...for the ALP.

by horace Sun 29 Nov 2009, 23:38

lardbucket wrote:
Hass wrote:Lardy and Big Dog. How the hell is Turnbull "unelectable"?

He's one of the most naturally electable people I've seen.

The problem is he's a first term opposition leader trying to control a dysfunctional party while competing against a very popular prime minister. .

No Liberal leader is electable at the next federal poll. But it's absolutely no contest that Turnbull would be the most electable in the poll after that.

Turnbull is one of the least electable, least inspiring individuals I've ever seen. He turns people off in droves. Australians will never elect a mealy-mouthed, smug, supercilious, superior, millionaire lawyer wanker to the highest office in the land. The sooner the Libs are shot of him the sooner they can find someone who actually is electable - until then, the Liberal opposition cannot be taken seriously as an alternative government.

lardy in gross underestimation of evil wealthy lawyres who have hoodwinked the Aiustralian people while in leadership positions -

pig iron bob
garfield barwick
howard
bronny

tis all a tradition of the fatuous ruling class warriors who have never coped with the idea of impotence when they are in opposition

by JGK Mon 30 Nov 2009, 03:44

ten years after wrote:
skully wrote:Apparently she with the freaky eyes has tapped Mr T on the shoulder and asked him the fark orf.

Will Joe Hockey make a good Opposition leader? Can't help but think it might fark up the oen decent pollie in the Libs ranks.

It would be interesting having a leader of the Liberal party who is to the left of the leader of the Labor party.

Turnbull is already left of Rudd on social issues.

by horace Mon 30 Nov 2009, 04:54

the Minchin deal for Hockey is that he will need to change his position on the ETS

by JGK Mon 30 Nov 2009, 05:52

There is talk today about Turnbull starting his own party if he gets shafted by the Libs.

He wouldn't even have to give up his seat.

by Mick Sawyer Mon 30 Nov 2009, 09:09

JGK wrote:There is talk today about Turnbull starting his own party if he gets shafted by the Libs.

He wouldn't even have to give up his seat.

Fark! That really would be fun to watch.

by lardbucket Mon 30 Nov 2009, 09:11

He should join the Democrats. That should finish them off.

by skully Mon 30 Nov 2009, 09:11

Even Mr T would not be that stoopid. Or would he? columbo

by Bradman Mon 30 Nov 2009, 09:12

Mick Sawyer wrote:
JGK wrote:There is talk today about Turnbull starting his own party if he gets shafted by the Libs.

He wouldn't even have to give up his seat.

Fark! That really would be fun to watch.

Not so much fun as really funny.

by skully Mon 30 Nov 2009, 09:13

One wonders why a self-made millionaire would put himself through such sh!t. The thrill of the potential power must be intoxicating.

by Bradman Mon 30 Nov 2009, 09:19

That's the word Skulls. They want power over money. They obviously have something wrong with them. What would you do with a $100,000,000.

I know what i'd do.

by skully Mon 30 Nov 2009, 09:21

Aye qmy. But I suppose if we didn't have this handful of egomaniacs willing to stand for Federal and State seats, we'd have no farkers to run the joint. shrug

by Bradman Mon 30 Nov 2009, 09:34

skully wrote:Aye qmy. But I suppose if we didn't have this handful of egomaniacs willing to stand for Federal and State seats, we'd have no farkers to run the joint.

Yeah wierd. Very wierd. Fark the LIBS. Can't go any further sorry!

by Invader Zim Mon 30 Nov 2009, 10:24

Can't see how Hockey will be able to take the leadership and not support the ETS and still retain any credibility.

If he's smart (?) he'll sit on the sidelines and let Abbot take it from the electorate next year.

Either way, for the Libs to have consumed the likes of Nelson and Turnbull and then opt for a intellectual pygmy like Hockey speaks volumes about where they are at in the Post Howard world. Farked.

by Paul Keating Mon 30 Nov 2009, 10:40

post howard world?

Fark - I almost want the little qunt to make a comeback.

It was almost getting boring without him.

by lardbucket Mon 30 Nov 2009, 11:41

It's all Maxine's fault.

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