Re: Aust Tour of South Africa

by Henry Mon 17 Oct 2011, 06:30

To be honest though, it does seem to be pretty easy to get into the Aus side these days. A couple of decent T20 performances and suddenly he's in line for a Baggy Green.....

by skully Mon 17 Oct 2011, 06:34

True, but not surprising given the swag of "greats" that have left since 06-07. The NSP has been playing "rabbit out of the hat" roulette since then, picking anyone who looks remotely talented, hoping they are a new Steve Waugh, Shane Warne or Glen McGrath. It's not quite that easy.

by Henry Mon 17 Oct 2011, 06:39

James Pattinson is hardly a washed up old hack. He's 21, FFS. And he was a reserve on the Sri Lanka tour. Surely he should be next in line.

And Cummins has played two first class games and picked up a stress fracture in one of them. Didn't exactly take stacks of wickets, either.

Yes, he clearly has talent, but have we really seen any evidence so far of an ability to A) swing the ball, and B) maintain the pace and bowl well for more than 4 overs at a time?

by skully Mon 17 Oct 2011, 06:41

I didn't say "washed up hack", Trev. I said "pea-hearted Vomit". There's a significant distinction. Cool

by JGK Mon 17 Oct 2011, 07:35

It is too early for Cummins. I hope I am proved wrong but you can see a 2 year pace blunting injury happening too him as he bowls his 40th over against Kallis and Amla and AB etc.

by Big Dog Mon 17 Oct 2011, 07:43

I think they need to start looking for a replacement for Cot as well. I don't think he's got it at this level anymore.

by WideWally Mon 17 Oct 2011, 07:46

JGK wrote:It is too early for Cummins. I hope I am proved wrong but you can see a 2 year pace blunting injury happening too him as he bowls his 40th over against Kallis and Amla and AB etc.

He had problems after being bowled into the ground in the Shield final. I'm hoping they have selected him so he can just experience being part of the squad without playing a test.

by JGK Mon 17 Oct 2011, 07:50

So Midge, Copeland and Cot to bowl with Elmer?

by JGK Mon 17 Oct 2011, 07:50

If so, surely he'd be better off actually bowling for NSW?

by WideWally Mon 17 Oct 2011, 07:53

JGK wrote:If so, surely he'd be better off actually bowling for NSW?

Agreed.

Although the article did state -

“It’s also likely that after the start of the second Test in South Africa, players from the squad who miss selection may return to Australia so they can play for their states or Australia A and be match ready for the start of the Vodafone Test Series against New Zealand in Australia.”

by WideWally Mon 17 Oct 2011, 08:06

JGK wrote:So Midge, Copeland and Cot to bowl with Elmer?

Rhino should be available for the first test. He is expected to play a Shield game at the end of October.

by skully Mon 17 Oct 2011, 08:14

Still reckon Copeland will be a handful if the wickets have juice. But Rhino should be first picked if fit.

by embee Mon 17 Oct 2011, 08:25

Do the underage fast bowling restrictions apply at Test level?

by Big Dog Mon 17 Oct 2011, 08:27

embee wrote:Do the underage fast bowling restrictions apply at Test level?

No

by embee Mon 17 Oct 2011, 08:33

Then I hope Cummins gets another couple of years development before he gets a Test

by Red Mon 17 Oct 2011, 08:38

Cummins of age before we expected.

If all pacemen are fit there will be a bit of a selection dilemma. Harris and Johnson should be no brainers with the other two fighting out assuming that a spinner will be picked.

by taipan Mon 17 Oct 2011, 08:42

Red wrote:Cummins of age before we expected.

If all pacemen are fit there will be a bit of a selection dilemma. Harris and Johnson should be no brainers with the other two fighting out assuming that a spinner will be picked.

Australia has found a spinner?

by Red Mon 17 Oct 2011, 08:50

taipan wrote:
Red wrote:Cummins of age before we expected.

If all pacemen are fit there will be a bit of a selection dilemma. Harris and Johnson should be no brainers with the other two fighting out assuming that a spinner will be picked.

Australia has found a spinner?

At least one not dissimilar to Harris.

by JGK Mon 17 Oct 2011, 09:15

Red wrote:Cummins of age before we expected.

If all pacemen are fit there will be a bit of a selection dilemma. Harris and Johnson should be no brainers with the other two fighting out assuming that a spinner will be picked.

Isn't that the whole problem with Midge?

by horace Mon 17 Oct 2011, 23:15

Cot bowled carp against the billies and despite his whole hearted efforts (as opposed ruggies the tater (agreed S - he is the new spud) he should be axed

by embee Tue 18 Oct 2011, 02:06

ShyT staying on as cover for the schoolgirl and bog in the JAMODIs

Oz Cricket in crisis

by Henry Tue 18 Oct 2011, 02:24

horace wrote:Cot bowled carp against the billies and despite his whole hearted efforts (as opposed ruggies the tater (agreed S - he is the new spud) he should be axed

Didn't Siddle take a 5fer in his last test?

by Nath Tue 18 Oct 2011, 09:43

embee wrote:ShyT staying on as cover for the schoolgirl and bog in the JAMODIs

Oz Cricket in crisis

point 1 - WGAF?
point 2 - apparently this is the new selection policy. If you do something in T20, you're as good as in for the longer forms. Suspect

by Red Tue 18 Oct 2011, 13:03

Good to see that the technology will be in place for the tests and ODIs. Seems only India objects to DRS.

Dippenaar thinks SA should play Harris instead of Tahir in the tests.

by taipan Tue 18 Oct 2011, 13:07

Red wrote: Seems only India objects to DRS.

.

No sh!t, Sherlock?

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