ICC Test Player Ratings

New player rankings are interesting. Warner is a scrot away from No 2. rhino is no 2.

JGK wrote:New player rankings are interesting. Warner is a scrot away from No 2. rhino is no 2.

Wow!! Still, having just Warner & Pup in top 10 batsmen shows the fragility of our top 7. Smithy may get in there soon (he's at 12). And if Patto can roar up the list (currently 28th) & Midge and Rhino maintain form, we may just have some justification to claim competition with SAf for the "best attack in the world".

Batting

1 A.B. de Villiers-----SA---922
2 K.C. Sangakkara--SL---879
3 S. Chanderpaul----WI---876
4 H.M. Amla-----------SA---873
5 D.A. Warner------AUS---871
6 R.L. Taylor----------NZ---842
7 Misbah-ul-Haq----PAK---824
8 C.A. Pujara--------IND---819
9 M.J. Clarke-------AUS---818
10 V. Kohli------------IND---784

Bowling

1 D.W. Steyn---------SA---898
2 R.J. Harris--------AUS---870
3 V.D. Philander------SA---865
4 M.G. Johnson----AUS---844
5 Saeed Ajmal------PAK---787
6 H.M.R.B. Herath---SL---774
7 T.A. Boult------------NZ---767
8 T.G. Southee-------NZ---757
9 R. Ashwin----------IND---744
10 P.M. Siddle------AUS---733

interesting....no english in either list

Not that anyone cares but here are the lastest ones

Bowlers
1/ 898 D.W. Steyn SA
2 / 870 R.J. Harris AUS
3 / 865 V.D. Philander SA
4 / 844 M.G. Johnson AUS
5 / 787 Saeed Ajmal PAK
Batsmen
1/ 922 A.B. de Villiers SA 935
2/ 879 K.C. Sangakkara SL
3/ 876 S. Chanderpaul WI
4/ 873 H.M. Amla SA
5/ 871 D.A. Warner AUS

The think that Warner is a half century away from being the No 2 ranked batsman in the world.

OP Tipping wrote:

Bowlers
1/ 898 D.W. Steyn SA
2 / 870 R.J. Harris AUS
3 / 865 V.D. Philander SA
4 / 844 M.G. Johnson AUS
5 / 787 Saeed Ajmal PAK

I'm going go out on a limb here and say that's a pretty decent bowling attack. You've got all bases covered, pace, swing, bounce, accuracy, right-arm/left-arm variation, spin, moustaches and racial quotas.

Some lower order batting ability there too.

Usually the rankings are a mishmash of Johnny Fly-by-nights and statistical quirks, but that's a more than fair representation of the current world of bowling.

You've also got the high degree of extension representative.

Michael Slater told me that Michael Clarke is the best batsman in the world.

Warney tried to do the same, but creamed his pants midway through the name.

Paul Keating wrote:Michael Slater told me that Michael Clarke is the best batsman in the world.

Ian Botham told everyone Jimmy Anderson was the best bowler in the world.

Beefy and Slats should hang out and be dickheads together.

They'd get arrested as soon as you could say "Zip it".

Slats would get off using the diminished responsibility defence.

horace wrote:interesting....no english in either list

There's nobody English who deserves a place in the England team, never mind a World XI!

Thought Sturat might be somewhere near the top 10 on the bowling list, but he's about the only one - as no batsman could average much above 25 in the Ashes they all deserve to be ranked alongside Bangladeshi bits-and-pieces all-rounders.

11 729 S.C.J. Broad ENG 783 v West Indies, 17/05/2012
14 683 J.M. Anderson ENG 813 v India, 10/08/2011
16 637 M. Morkel SA 776 v Australia, 09/11/2011
20 608 B.W. Hilfenhaus AUS 757 v West Indies, 19/04/2012
21 607 N.M. Lyon AUS 648 v England, 26/12/2013
23 552 S.T. Finn ENG 624 v New Zealand, 24/05/2013
26 512 T.T. Bresnan ENG 657 v West Indies, 07/06/2012
28 506 J.L. Pattinson AUS 573 v India, 02/03/2013
33 475 C.T. Tremlett ENG 638 v India, 21/07/2011
37 433 M.S. Panesar ENG 721 v West Indies, 15/06/2007
40 420 S.R. Watson AUS 633 v South Africa, 09/11/2011
41 399 M.A. Starc AUS 432 v England, 21/08/2013
45 354 K.J. Abbott SA 354 v Pakistan, 22/02/2013
53 311 B.A. Stokes ENG 311 v Australia, 03/01/2014
58 295 Imran Tahir SA 312 v Pakistan, 23/10/2013
62 284 J.P. Duminy SA 302 v England, 14/01/2010
66 254 R.J. Peterson SA 335 v New Zealand, 11/01/2013
70 243 J.M. Bird AUS 376 v Sri Lanka, 03/01/2013
78 210 J.P. Faulkner AUS 228 v England, 21/08/2013
83 181 R.K. Kleinveldt SA 194 v Pakistan, 22/02/2013
84 176 G.J. Maxwell AUS 200 v India, 22/03/2013
93 141 M.J. Clarke AUS 265 v New Zealand, 18/03/2005
94 139 S.G. Borthwick ENG 139 v Australia, 03/01/2014
96 138 S.P.D. Smith AUS 138 v South Africa, 01/03/2014

Am I the only one even slightly concerned that, acc to those rankings, there are less than 100 people in the world that can bowl better than Steve Smith?

I'm more concerned that Maxwell and Borthwick are rated higher

Or that Chris Tremlett is holding steady at 33 in spite of playing only one Test in the last three years.

I missed that one Dello.

I think it was some time in 2011 that Brad Hodge's name turned up somewhere in the 50s or 60s on the batting list, when he hadn't played Test cricket for five years except one match in the Windies in 2008.

Milf (20) hasnt played since Hobart 2012

I think I heard that Philander is now the no 1 allrounder.

ID Rat. Name Nat. Career Best Rating
1 376 V.D. Philander SA 376 v Australia, 01/03/2014
2 373 R. Ashwin IND 419 v West Indies, 14/11/2013
3 364 Shakib Al Hasan BAN 404 v Pakistan, 17/12/2011
4 291 S.C.J. Broad ENG 382 v Pakistan, 25/01/2012
5 280 M.G. Johnson AUS 384 v England, 08/07/2009
6 246 S.R. Watson AUS 394 v South Africa, 17/11/2011
7 235 R.J. Harris AUS 235 v South Africa, 01/03/2014
8 229 T.G. Southee NZ 229 v India, 14/02/2014
9 204 D.W. Steyn SA 229 v Sri Lanka, 26/12/2011
10 195 D.J.G. Sammy WI 236 v England, 07/06/2012

I don't think it's like the tennis rankings where you lose the lot on the 366th day after winning a tournament, so your numbers in the second last year still count for something, but that Hilf ranking is still a bit odd. Likewise Trembles.

JGK wrote:New player rankings are interesting. Warner is a scrot away from No 2.

Shame. Some may say Warner would be the most appropriate No 2 in sport since Andrew Jarman.

Jarvis 46th, he's retired.

Steve Finn is 24th and he can't even bowl. Yet he's still ahead of Ishant Sharma. I guess they're not completely shite then.

These are actually the ODI ratings, after the Gilly final:

World ODI Rankings - Bowlers

1) Mitchell Starc
2) Imran Tahir
3) Saeed Ajmal
4) Dale Steyn
5) Sunil Narine
6) Trent Boult
7) Mitchell Johnson (*)
8] James Anderson
9) Morne Morkel
10) Shakib ul Hasan

Other Australians: James Faulker (23), Clint McKay (24), Xavier Doherty (48), Josh Hazlewood (70), Glenn Maxwell (73), Shane Watson (84)

World ODI Rankings - Batsmen

1) AB de Villiers
2) Kumar Sangakkara
3) Hashim Amla
4) Virat Kohli
5) Tillakaratne Dilshan
6) Shikhar Dhawan
7) Kane Williamson
8] MS Dhoni
9) Glenn Maxwell
10) George Bailey

Other Australians: Steve Smith (14), Aaron Finch (15), Shane Watson (25), David Warner (27), Michael Clarke (29), James Faulkner (31), Brad Haddin (69), Mitchell Marsh (80), Shaun Marsh (82)