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Post by skully Wed 25 Jul 2018, 23:31

In the recent Roses County match, Joe Root was a victim in a hattrick by Jordan Clark, then came out and took 4-5 with his off spin to claim career best figures. Remarkably, this has happened 4 times in Tests. When?

Victim in a hattrick AND career best bowling figures in the same Test:

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Post by JGK Thu 26 Jul 2018, 01:46

You mean career best as at that time or as at the end of their career?

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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 01:48

End of career.
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Post by JGK Thu 26 Jul 2018, 01:48

Tom Emmett

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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 01:50

Aye:

Victim in a hattrick AND career best bowling figures in the same Test:

7/68 by T Emmett (Eng) who was third victim of FR Spofforth (Aus) Melbourne, 1878-79

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Post by JGK Thu 26 Jul 2018, 01:52

Starc

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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 01:56

Yup:

Victim in a hattrick AND career best bowling figures in the same Test:

7/68 by T Emmett (Eng) who was third victim of FR Spofforth (Aus) Melbourne, 1878-79

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6/50 by MA Starc (Aus); 3rd victim of HMRKB Herath (SL) Galle, 2016
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Post by JGK Thu 26 Jul 2018, 01:58

Magoo qualifies on match figures.

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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 01:59

But not on innings figures.
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Post by Bradman Thu 26 Jul 2018, 02:06

Rhodes as s victim in a trumble hat trickn
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Post by JGK Thu 26 Jul 2018, 02:07

Saffie Gordon who also lived to 103

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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 02:25

Bradman wrote:Rhodes as s victim in a trumble hat trickn

No. Trumble's victims were Arthur Jones, John Gunn and Sydney Barnes at Melbourne in 1901-02, and Bernard Bosanquet, Plum Warner and Dick Lilley at Melbourne (2) in 1903-04.

JGK wrote:Saffie Gordon who also lived to 103

Victim in a hattrick AND career best bowling figures in the same Test:

Yes:

7/68 by T Emmett (Eng) who was third victim of FR Spofforth (Aus) Melbourne, 1878-79

5/103 by N Gordon (SAf); 2nd victim of TWJ Goddard (Eng) Johannesburg(1), 1938-39

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6/50 by MA Starc (Aus); 3rd victim of HMRKB Herath (SL) Galle, 2016
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Post by Bradman Thu 26 Jul 2018, 02:31

Howststat would appear to disagree with you.
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Post by Bradman Thu 26 Jul 2018, 02:35

And bosanquet wasnt even playing in the match.
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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 06:11

Bradman wrote:Howststat would appear to disagree with you.

Bradman wrote:And bosanquet wasnt even playing in the match.

Bong, you're wrong, Q.

1st Hattrick:

2nd Test MCG 1901-02

AO Jones-------c Darling b Trumble-----6
JR Gunn----------c Jones b Trumble-----2
SF Barnes--------------c & b Trumble----0


2nd Hattrick:

5th Test MCG 1903-04

PF Warner (c)-----------c & b Trumble--11
BJT Bosanquet---c Gehrs b Trumble---4
AFA Lilley †--------------lbw b Trumble---0
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Post by Bradman Thu 26 Jul 2018, 06:51

so whos right you or charlie
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Post by WideWally Thu 26 Jul 2018, 06:58

It is an understandable mistake. Qmy is correct that Howstat show the 2nd test of that series as being the one in which Trumble took the hat-trick. However, Howstat has got it wrong. There were 2 Melbourne tests in that series & Trumble had great success in both but the hat-trick was in the 5th test.

http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Bowling/BowlingHatTricks.asp?s=T

Cricinfo stats

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/136977.html

Newspapers of the time show Trumble taking the hat-trick in the 5th test.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=Trumble+hat++trick&exactPhrase=&anyWords=¬Words=&requestHandler=&dateFrom=1904-01-01&dateTo=1904-03-31&sortby=
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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 07:00

Bradman wrote:so whos right you or charlie

Cricinfo.
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Post by Bradman Thu 26 Jul 2018, 07:04

turns out it wouldnt have mattrred anyway. thry eerent rhodes best figures
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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 07:07

No, " thry eerent". Cool
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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 07:09

WideWally wrote:It is an understandable mistake.

Pretty sloppy, I would've thought. I have contacted Howstat twice over the years to correct errors in their stats. So this is another example.
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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 07:11

Anywho, we currently stand at:

Victim in a hattrick AND career best bowling figures in the same Test:

7/68 by T Emmett (Eng) who was third victim of FR Spofforth (Aus) Melbourne, 1878-79

5/103 by N Gordon (SAf); 2nd victim of TWJ Goddard (Eng) Johannesburg(1), 1938-39

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Post by WideWally Thu 26 Jul 2018, 07:12

skully wrote:
WideWally wrote:It is an understandable mistake.

Pretty sloppy, I would've thought. I have contacted Howstat twice over the years to correct errors in their stats. So this is another example.


I meant that it was understandable that Qmy would accept their stats as being correct.
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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 07:19

Oh, OK. aces

I checked Cricinfo and Wiki, as my confidence in Howstat is not optimal. Cool
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Post by skully Thu 26 Jul 2018, 07:23

Having said that, Howstat have been grateful for corrections, citing the voluntary nature of their web site in compilation, upkeep and maintenance as a reason for the odd error.
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