How far can Jimmy go?

Norfolk Ian Goode wrote:Incidentally, by playing at Edgbaston he officially took his Test career into a third decade, the 18th man to do so and the first wholly in the 21st century (Tendulkar and Chanderpaul the other two whose careers were partially in this century).

Simply remarkable for a seam bowler. Jimmeh the ledg.

... turd decayed now.

skully wrote:

Norfolk Ian Goode wrote:Incidentally, by playing at Edgbaston he officially took his Test career into a third decade, the 18th man to do so and the first wholly in the 21st century (Tendulkar and Chanderpaul the other two whose careers were partially in this century).

Simply remarkable for a seam bowler. Jimmeh the ledg.

Imran Khan is the only other one on the list who would be regarded as a frontline seam bowler, though Sobers did some of it among his many talents.

Of course, a 20-year Test career doesn’t necessarily mean a vast number of matches, even by the standards of more sparse fixture lists in years gone by. Only Anderson, Tendulkar, Chanderpaul and Cowdrey have played 100 Tests spanning over 20 years. At the other end of the scale, six members of the 20-year club played less than 50, including John Traicos who picked up just 7 caps, but for two different countries!

Isn't the list of those who 'took their career into a third decade' simply a list of those who had 20+ years between their debut and exit ... not of players who played a Test in three different decades, of whom there surely must have been many more than 18; ranging from the obvious [Steve Waugh] to the obscure [Nazir Junior].

Yeah, the meaning is those who played Tests over a span of more than 20 years. Playing in three calendar decades is obviously a lot more common, but what about those who played in four (or more)?

Taking a decade as running from 0 to 9 (not strictly fitting in with the official definition of centuries, but only a true pedant would say 1990 was part of the ‘80s…) qualifies the following:

Wilfred Rhodes (5) - 1890s, 1900s, ‘10s, ‘20s, ‘30s
Brian Close (4) - 1940s, ‘50s, ‘60s, ‘70s
Frank Woolley (4) - 1900s, ‘10s, ‘20s, ‘30s
Sachin Tendulkar (4) - 1980s, ‘90s, 2000s, ‘10s
Jack Hobbs (4) - 1900s, ‘10s, ‘20s, ‘30s

Pretty confident in saying Jimmy won’t be joining this even more exclusive club…

He could field at slip with a zimmer frame well into his 80s.

Will he finally get the chance to end it as it all began, with a home Test against Zimbabwe in 2025 announced, the first red-ball meeting of the sides since his debut series? Presumably that’s what he’s been waiting for

A nice fitting way to finish.

Just stick to home Tests, Jimmeh.

Yeah, India feels pointless, but if he doesn’t go then it means 11 months without any cricket. That’s the way with the modern calendar!

If he plays a Test with Rehan Ahmed, he will have had England team-mates born more than 40 years apart during his career. Think he’s played alongside more than 100 different players at Test level now as well.

…and also, Rehan would be the first Test team-mate not born when Jimmy debuted!

He’s done. All over.

lardbucket wrote:He’s done. All over.

Source? Can’t see any reports of it yet here…

Actually looks like he’s signed a one-year central contract, with others receiving multi-year deals for the first time.

No "official source", just a statement of what now seems obvious.

lardbucket wrote:No "official source", just a statement of what now seems obvious.

Well, not that obvious given he’s signed up for another year.

Stokes also only took a one-year deal but seemingly hedging his bets ahead of the next broadcast deal. Three-year deals for Root, Brook and Wood, so seemingly reserved for those with a double ‘o’ in their name.

I maintain Jimmeh should go as far as we wants.

He was bloody unlucky in the Ashes with dire Baz ball roads and having heaps of near and dropped chances.

He was more than entitled to snot the pork pie head of theEnglish keeper with the colander gloves.

horace wrote:I maintain Jimmeh should go as far as we wants.

He was bloody unlucky in the Ashes with dire Baz ball roads and having heaps of near and dropped chances.

He was more than entitled to snot the pork pie head of theEnglish keeper with the colander gloves.

One could argue though that fast bowlers can't expect greentops all the time, just like batsmen should have juicy pitches in addition to the roads we always see at the SCG.

beamer wrote:

lardbucket wrote:He’s done. All over.

Source? Can’t see any reports of it yet here…

Actually looks like he’s signed a one-year central contract, with others receiving multi-year deals for the first time.

That's the one year contract with the only Tests in that year the away ones in India? I just doubt he should or would go there, and suspect others will leapfrog him in the interim. Surely they're not going to select him in 12 months time just on sentiment and the hope he will jag a few final wickets, for personal stats, on his Zimmer frame?

I don’t know, but they obviously didn’t want him and Broad to depart the scene together. Expect they’ll take him to India based on experience and having had several months’ rest, unlike those involved in other formats. He’ll be keen for a home summer against weak opposition to race past 700…

beamer wrote:I don’t know, but they obviously didn’t want him and Broad to depart the scene together. Expect they’ll take him to India based on experience and having had several months’ rest, unlike those involved in other formats. He’ll be keen for a home summer against weak opposition to race past 700…

I honestly believe it should be his call. There are so few out and out champions trundling about in Test cricket at the moment, his retirement will be a terrible blow to the game.

Yep he will probably go to BanIndia and toil away. Who knows the Bannies might dial in pitches helpful to their Quicks and Jimmeh may benefit. Would be great to see.

700, even. What a slog it's been in India.

Is that it, or will he cash in for another few against weak opposition at home?

This from the Guardian report on Stokes' post-tour presser:

"How long Jimmy Anderson continues is another question, the 41-year-old bringing up 700 Test wickets but averaging 33 with the ball on tour, a number that swells to 50 over the past 12 months".

What are Sportsbet offering on 707?

Fred Nerk wrote:What are Sportsbet offering on 707?

A high price I imagine. He won’t be Boeing out on 707.

lardbucket wrote:Isn't the list of those who 'took their career into a third decade' simply a list of those who had 20+ years between their debut and exit ... not of players who played a Test in three different decades, of whom there surely must have been many more than 18; ranging from the obvious [Steve Waugh] to the obscure [Nazir Junior].

I can out-obscure you, with an Aussie who played three Tests in the 70s, one in the 90s, and about a dozen in between. Both his first and last Tests were on the MCG (and both against the same opposition), but neither involved playing on Boxing Day.

Peter Sleep?

From memory he was one of Sarfraz's bottle-top victims (that 9-1 spell when the ball suddenly started swinging around corners).

Yep. ..there may have been careers span 11 years or three decades with less appearances back when half a dozen Tests a year was a lot, but no names jump to mind
Sleep, as the 43rd (approximately) and youngest (literally) Australian Test cricketer of the dismal 78-79 summer, was indeed one of Sarfraz's nine victims, out for a second-ball globe after making not many in his first innings, claiming a tailender for a first Test wicket after not getting a bowl until seven wickets were down, then getting flogged in the second bowling innings by Majid Khan and Zaheer Abbas. 

Yallop, whose tactical awareness and management skills made David Brent look like Barassi or Lombardi, kept him on two overs too long at least. It was duly noted  that Graham had not been quite as macho and cornflakes-packet-MBA in his dealings with one Rodney M. Hogg of the same parish earlier in the summer.

Sleep had one good Test summer with the ball and one with the bat and, far from the plainly out of his depth Test debutant of March 1979, he was a long-term tough and dependable big occasion player for his State, with good efforts in Shield finals, and a vital role in the successful chase of 500+ v Qld in the early 90s