Ringo Starr Invitational XI

Not particularly legendary members of legendary teams

Alan Turner (Aust 75-76)
Mike Brearley (Ashes 77 and 81) (NOT captain)
Ian Bell (Ashes 2005)
John Hampshire (Ashes 70-71)
Gary Cosier (Aust 75-76)
Tiger Lance (Sith F 1970)
Geraint Jones (Ashes 2005)+
Trevor Hohns (Ashes 89)
Eldine Baptiste (Windies mid 80s)
Patrick Patterson (Windies late 80s)
Jon Agnew (Ashes 1985)

mark waugh 90s

How come that took so long, the worm nearly drowned....

aah well ...i am an old guy freddie...there are plenty of other oz nominees too...besides i thought you might enjoy waitning more than a couple of minutes

John Emburey
"Dusty" Miller

Hehe, noice work Nerky, I like it. That side wouldn't win a chook raffle.

skully wrote:Hehe, noice work Nerky, I like it. That side wouldn't win a chook raffle.

...or beat our rather weak current test team

And amazingly, Eldine Baptiste played 10 Tests for 10 wins. Gilly held the record for most Tests - all as wins - at 15 by the end of the original Streak (Healy was keeper in the first of the 16 wins), then we got beaten from nowhere by VVS and Dravid in India 2001.

bernard julian was another windies r. starr...our brendan version of julian was more like pete best

skully wrote:And amazingly, Eldine Baptiste played 10 Tests for 10 wins. Gilly held the record for most Tests - all as wins - at 15 by the end of the original Streak (Healy was keeper in the first of the 16 wins), then we got beaten from nowhere by VVS and Dravid and Bhajji in India 2001.

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skully wrote:And amazingly, Eldine Baptiste played 10 Tests for 10 wins. Gilly held the record for most Tests - all as wins - at 15 by the end of the original Streak (Healy was keeper in the first of the 16 wins), then we got beaten from nowhere by VVS and Dravid and someone whose action was called into question in India 2001.

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horace wrote:

doremi wrote:

skully wrote:And amazingly, Eldine Baptiste played 10 Tests for 10 wins. Gilly held the record for most Tests - all as wins - at 15 by the end of the original Streak (Healy was keeper in the first of the 16 wins), then we got beaten from nowhere by VVS and Dravid and someone whose action was called into question in India 2001.

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Fred Nerk wrote:Not particularly legendary members of legendary teams

Alan Turner (Aust 75-76)
Mike Brearley (Ashes 77 and 81) (NOT captain)
Ian Bell (Ashes 2005)
John Hampshire (Ashes 70-71)
Gary Cosier (Aust 75-76)
Tiger Lance (Sith F 1970)
Geraint Jones (Ashes 2005)+
Trevor Hohns (Ashes 89)
Eldine Baptiste (Windies mid 80s)
Patrick Patterson (Windies late 80s)
Jon Agnew (Ashes 1985)

The best thing about many of these 'Ringo' selections is that the under-performing player was picked for a series-wining team throughout the series in question ... Jones, Hohns, Bell, Brearley, Turner, and (I think) Lance ... who is a bit out of place in that lot.

If we were to make this requirement more stringent, rather than allowing players like Hampshire and Cosier (who featured in only a minority of the Tests of the series in question) ...

How about England's keeper in the Ashes 1985?

Any other outstanding nominations?

Barney Julien was a bit unlucky. He matched Sobers shot for shot when he made his first Test ton at Lords in 1973, and took wickets as well, made another century v India later in 1974, kept Andy Roberts out of the side throughout WI v Eng 74, went to Australia, got injured, went home and by the time he was fit again he'd been overtaken by not only Roberts but also Holding, Daniel, Garner, Croft and about 254 others. FFS even Marshall had to fight his way through that crowd for a regular gig, so the likes of Julien were well and truly doomed.

He did get an excellent view of much of Roy Fredericks' innings at the WACA; probably a better view than most.

true...but i would have been scared of getting in the way of Roy's bludgeoniing shots

He did indeed.

And the way Australia's Flab Four bowled at Roy that day, Barney was in the least danger of physical harm from Frederick's batting of anybody in the WACA, or even anywhere between the WACA and Rottnest Island.

Fred Nerk wrote:Not particularly legendary members of legendary teams

Alan Turner (Aust 75-76)
Mike Brearley (Ashes 77 and 81) (NOT captain)
Ian Bell (Ashes 2005)
John Hampshire (Ashes 70-71)
Gary Cosier (Aust 75-76)
Tiger Lance (Sith F 1970)
Geraint Jones (Ashes 2005)+
Trevor Hohns (Ashes 89)
Eldine Baptiste (Windies mid 80s)
Patrick Patterson (Windies late 80s)
Jon Agnew (Ashes 1985)

If you've got Bell and Jones from the 2005 Ashes side (really, a legendary team?) how can you not have the worst player to have played over fifty Tests, the King of Spain, Ashley Giles?

Giles was so zero-impact that I literally forgot all about him.

Forgot about who?

I know he doesn't qualify under the "Not particularly legendary members of legendary teams" rule but the ACT wicketkeeper might be worth considering for the Arse Tar Invitational XI.

didn't haddit come from the ACT comp??...agree he is carp...would prefer hartley as a decent and relilable keeper until the next champ emerges

Yes, Haddin did play for the Canberra Crapmerchants (or whatever they were called) those couple of years in the late 90s when they played in the BorING Cup (or whatever it was called).

horace wrote:didn't haddit come from the ACT comp??...agree he is carp...would prefer hartley as a decent and relilable keeper until the next champ emerges

I was referring to Randall Starr.

Paul Collingwood MBE.