Re: Celebrity Death List MMXVI / The Death Thread 2016

by embee Mon 15 Feb 2016, 04:15

"those of us who cant be directly affected dont have the right to control the discussion"

but apparently the right to an angry 'i'm right dont dare disagree with me' rant still exists

by taipan Mon 15 Feb 2016, 05:42

embee wrote:"those of us who cant be directly affected dont have the right to control the discussion"

but apparently the right to an angry 'i'm right dont dare disagree with me' rant still exists

Some might think that with discussion comes understanding, but apparently we are not allowed to discuss it.

by Ethics? The Gall! Mon 15 Feb 2016, 06:07

some might think that the phrase 'dont have the right to control the discussion' means you can discuss but you shouldnt try to lay down the law

but what would i know?

by Growler Mon 15 Feb 2016, 12:18

Ethics? The Gall! wrote:some might think that the phrase 'dont have the right to control the discussion' means you can discuss but you shouldnt try to lay down the law

but what would i know?

Thanks for the reply ETG - but I'm not sure why I was the target for your anger. Agree with me or not as you will - my point stands on its own merits. Abortion on demand was never intended as a lifestyle choice, and I doubt more than a handful of the early advocates foresaw anybody ever having more than one (maybe two at the most.) My point was merely noting a change of attitude by Jane Roe from "pro-choice" to "pro life" over the years. I didn't express a personal view on it, so I've no idea why you should accuse me of trying to control other peoples lives, or trying to lay down the law.

I'm sure for the majority of women, a termination is the most difficult, traumatic decision they'll ever make. For a few, obviously not. If it were that dreadful, why on earth would some women have so many?

You're absolutely right - women don't wake up thinking " I'm bored etc etc" as you quoted. However, plenty of them do finish work on Friday night, go home, get changed and half cut before going to a cheap bar. Come 10 o'clock, they don't even know what year it is let alone the day of the week. That situation of getting deliberately so drunk is a conscious decision, made possible by the knowledge that a pregnancy doesn't have to be the life-changing event it used to be.

With regards to your final paragraph regarding ethics, etc ....... again - I've never stated a view on it, so you've actually no idea what I think. That said, I do find your language interesting. I've never before heard anyone refer to a growing baby as a parasite, but you're not the first to use the expression "they're not humans" or words to that effect. For sure, in the womb they are not independent living people - but human beings ? Halfway through a pregnancy they certainly look like tiny humans.

Finally - I do have a ******* life, thanks.

by horace Mon 15 Feb 2016, 13:07

Deleted long rave as it would be considered offensive....mind you I find pro lifers to be offensive.

by Growler Mon 15 Feb 2016, 13:28

Rave all you like for me, h. All I'd say from a personal POV is just don't attack anyone for something they haven't actually said.

That was my issue with ETG's response to my post, hence the narky reply.

by taipan Mon 15 Feb 2016, 13:43

horace wrote:Deleted long rave as it would be considered offensive....mind you I find pro lifers to be offensive.

They might be offensive, but they are not necessarily misogynistic, which was my starting point.

by Brass Monkey Mon 15 Feb 2016, 14:03

horace wrote:Historically it has been male controlled religions and govts and courts that have controlled the rules.

Abortion is legal in Victoria but it is still difficult in country areas for women. The catholic crew run hospitals in major regional centres. Doctors performing abortions elsewhere cannot get sessions at their hospitals.

Personally I support the right to choose both of fertility and euthanasia

Ethics? The Gall! wrote:
taipan wrote:
Ethics? The Gall! wrote:true. you just have to think that you have the ****** right to dictate to women what happens to their bodies
Actually was thinking thinking about about how many women are anti abortion. Of course they are also misogynistic.
not necessarily
they just think they have the ****** right to dictate to other women what happens to their bodies

theres a simple solution for people who are against abortion. dont have one
noone claims its an ideal method of birth control but it has to remain as an option for women. all women in all situations. its about human rights and bodily autonomy

Yo baby

by skully Tue 16 Feb 2016, 03:07

Vanity, the one-time protege of Prince, has died at 57, mainly due to the effects on her body of long term crack abuse.

Geez, we are very skinny in the celebrity death department lately.

by Ethics? The Gall! Tue 16 Feb 2016, 06:08

Growler wrote:You're absolutely right - women don't wake up thinking " I'm bored etc etc" as you quoted. However, plenty of them do finish work on Friday night, go home, get changed and half cut before going to a cheap bar. Come 10 o'clock, they don't even know what year it is let alone the day of the week. That situation of getting deliberately so drunk is a conscious decision, made possible by the knowledge that a pregnancy doesn't have to be the life-changing event it used to be.

but weve been doing that since the year dot without having to worry about the implications. double standard much that men can while women apparently cant. or maybe you mean shouldnt?
seriously what is the problem with women being able to be as irresponsible as men? how about suggesting that that sort of drinking culture is ****** stupid for everyone rather than just being oh so unladylike

it takes two to make a pregnancy. only one has to endure the entire process and the sometimes lifelong consequences so only that one has the right to decide whether it goes ahead

as for what a half term foetus looks like...abortions except in extreme medical cases are almost always performed within the first trimester
in a purely scientific sense the term parasite is not inaccurate

nothing personal intended in my remarks. and no anger either. i cant help your perceptions or interpretations of what i said

and to drag the discussion back into line with the threads purpose...Antonin #Scalia requested cremation in his will, but millions of women will meet tomorrow to discuss if that's really best for his body.

by skully Tue 16 Feb 2016, 23:57

Boutros squared karks it

"Former UN secretary-general Boutros Boutros-Ghali, who led the world body from 1992 to 1996, has died aged 93, the UN Security Council says."

by Growler Wed 17 Feb 2016, 01:08

Which puts young slackbladder on the board, your skullishness Very Happy

by horace Wed 17 Feb 2016, 01:27

Hehe. Skullywag will be beside himself

by skully Wed 17 Feb 2016, 02:45

Growler wrote:Which puts young slackbladder on the board, your skullishness

Ah, cheers Growls. Completely missed that. Huzzah to BA!! applause

OP Tipping wrote:Ri Yong-mu (politics)
Věra Čáslavská (sport)
Louis Tomlinson (under 30)
Frédéric Prinz von Anhalt
Buzz Aldrin
Oliver North

Big Dog wrote:Roger Daltry
Jimmy Carter - politician
Valerie Harper
Joey Bada$$ - u30
Tommy Chong
Graham 'Polly' Farmer - sport

skully wrote:Bob Dole (Politics)
Henry Kissinger
Martin Crowe (Sports)
Cory Gunz (U30 rapper)
Clive James
Olivia De Havilland

embee wrote:Zsa Zsa Gabor
Neale Daniher
Harry from 1D
Ted Egan
Bronwyn Bishop
Andy Ganteaume

JGK wrote:Kirk Douglas
Lee Iacocca
Sir Everton Weekes - sport
George HW Bush politics
Jake LaMotta
Johnny Manziell - u30

Fred Nerk wrote:Justin Bieber
Bob Simpson (sport)
Doug Anthony (politics)
Malcolm Young
Fr Gerald Ridsdale
Sally Anne Howes

Blackadder wrote:Rhianna (u/30's)
John McEnroe (sports)
Bhumibol Adulyadej (King of Thailand)
Billy Graham
Mary Tyler Moore
Boutros Boutros-Ghali (politics) DEADED

horace wrote:Margaret Court
Daniel Ricciardo under 30
Wally Edwards
Andrew Forrest
Gina Reinhardt
Wilson Tuckey

Ethics? The Gall! wrote:David Attenborough
ex-Pope Benedict
Miley Cyrus (under 30)
Doris Day
Prince Phillip (politics)
Oscar Pistorius (sport)

Growler wrote:Charles Gilmour - (U30) - activist and professional dickhead
Joost van der Westhuizen - (sportsman)
Robert Mugabe - (politics) - all-round monster
Charlie Sheen - oxygen thief
Keith Richard - the walking dead
Rolf Harris - pervert

Bradman wrote:Galarrwuy Yunupingu
~~Billy Graham~~ PLEASE REPLACE
Maradona
Julian Blanc
Nancy Reagan
Bruce Forsyth

spangler wrote:Sepp Blatter - sport
Jacques Chirac - politics
Chris Brown - U30
Maggie Smith
John Motson
Bill Cosby

by skully Wed 17 Feb 2016, 20:44

Commandant Lassard of Police Academy passes

"Character actor George Gaynes, known for his work on the TV show Punky Brewster and in films like Tootsie and Police Academy, has died. He was 98. "

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by JGK Wed 17 Feb 2016, 22:07

That's very very very very very sad.

by Blackadder Wed 17 Feb 2016, 23:26

skully wrote:
Growler wrote:Which puts young slackbladder on the board, your skullishness

Ah, cheers Growls. Completely missed that. Huzzah to BA!!

OP Tipping wrote:Ri Yong-mu (politics)
Věra Čáslavská (sport)
Louis Tomlinson (under 30)
Frédéric Prinz von Anhalt
Buzz Aldrin
Oliver North
Big Dog wrote:Roger Daltry
Jimmy Carter - politician
Valerie Harper
Joey Bada$$ - u30
Tommy Chong
Graham 'Polly' Farmer - sport
skully wrote:Bob Dole (Politics)
Henry Kissinger
Martin Crowe (Sports)
Cory Gunz (U30 rapper)
Clive James
Olivia De Havilland
embee wrote:Zsa Zsa Gabor
Neale Daniher
Harry from 1D
Ted Egan
Bronwyn Bishop
Andy Ganteaume
JGK wrote:Kirk Douglas
Lee Iacocca
Sir Everton Weekes - sport
George HW Bush politics
Jake LaMotta
Johnny Manziell - u30
Fred Nerk wrote:Justin Bieber
Bob Simpson (sport)
Doug Anthony (politics)
Malcolm Young
Fr Gerald Ridsdale
Sally Anne Howes
Blackadder wrote:Rhianna (u/30's)
John McEnroe (sports)
Bhumibol Adulyadej (King of Thailand)
Billy Graham
Mary Tyler Moore
Boutros Boutros-Ghali (politics) DEADED
horace wrote:Margaret Court
Daniel Ricciardo under 30
Wally Edwards
Andrew Forrest
Gina Reinhardt
Wilson Tuckey
Ethics? The Gall! wrote:David Attenborough
ex-Pope Benedict
Miley Cyrus (under 30)
Doris Day
Prince Phillip (politics)
Oscar Pistorius (sport)
Growler wrote:Charles Gilmour - (U30) - activist and professional dickhead
Joost van der Westhuizen - (sportsman)
Robert Mugabe - (politics) - all-round monster
Charlie Sheen - oxygen thief
Keith Richard - the walking dead
Rolf Harris - pervert
Bradman wrote:Galarrwuy Yunupingu
~~Billy Graham~~ PLEASE REPLACE
Maradona
Julian Blanc
Nancy Reagan
Bruce Forsyth
spangler wrote:Sepp Blatter - sport
Jacques Chirac - politics
Chris Brown - U30
Maggie Smith
John Motson
Bill Cosby

Cripes, I actually land a nomination, for about the first time ever... Shocked

by skully Wed 17 Feb 2016, 23:53

Well played, sir, for breaking your and our duck.

by Ethics? The Gall! Thu 18 Feb 2016, 04:27

JGK wrote:That's very very very very very sad.

at 98? probably a relief

by skully Thu 18 Feb 2016, 05:45

Ethics? The Gall! wrote:
JGK wrote:That's very very very very very sad.
at 98? probably a relief

I believe MrK is alluding to this scene...

by JGK Thu 18 Feb 2016, 07:02

Nice spot skullywag.

by WideWally Thu 18 Feb 2016, 07:17

Andy Ganteaume didn't make it to 112 but 95 is a still a good innings.

RIP Andy

http://gulftoday.ae/portal/0487019b-fdf8-421c-8b1b-2a98c9220406.aspx

by JGK Thu 18 Feb 2016, 07:26

I had him a few years ago.

Of course.

by Big Dog Thu 18 Feb 2016, 07:27

WideWally wrote:Andy Ganteaume didn't make it to 112 but 95 is a still a good innings.

RIP Andy

http://gulftoday.ae/portal/0487019b-fdf8-421c-8b1b-2a98c9220406.aspx

So he scored a ton in his one & only Test & never played another. He must have seriously pissed somebody off.

by JGK Thu 18 Feb 2016, 07:27

So Adam Voges has the highest test average of living people.

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