Re: NZ

by lardbucket Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:26

I know they've only beaten a lowly team, but I think they have real prospects of rising through the ranks:

Bracewell - a successor for Martin has been found
Brownlie - how could the Wozzies miss this bloke?
Williamson - has all the shots, and heaps of time
Boult - what a prospect

If they can keep Taylor, Ryder, Guptill, Southee, Vettori, and McCullum on the park, they will win more Tests. They should beat Sri Lanka easily, for a start. The wicketkeeping position seems unresolved.

by skully Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:31

Aye, we discussed at length the class of Brownlie (outstanding for a Grade player) and Boult (lovely technically perfect leftie action).

by Allan D Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:33

As Coney pointed out on Sky here after the match, the NZ Board has to back their side by giving them more Tests to play esp. against top sides like the Bannies, Saffies & England. Overseas boards also have to offer them more tours and longer series or the improvement will be lost in the wham-bam of ODI & T20 cricket.

by lardbucket Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:34

Boult looked an absolute gem within his first few overs. Why can't our left-armers bowl like that?

btw, has the due credit been given to NZ's bowling coach?

by Henry Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:41

lardbucket wrote:I know they've only beaten a lowly team, but I think they have real prospects of rising through the ranks:

Bracewell - a successor for Martin has been found
Brownlie - how could the Wozzies miss this bloke?
Williamson - has all the shots, and heaps of time
Boult - what a prospect

If they can keep Taylor, Ryder, Guptill, Southee, Vettori, and McCullum on the park, they will win more Tests. They should beat Sri Lanka easily, for a start. The wicketkeeping position seems unresolved.

I'll add to that-

Neil wagner- Left arm Saffie quick. Qualifies for NZ in a few months. Dominates first class cricket, swings it around at 140kph.

Adam Milne- 19 year old who consistently bowls at 150kph+. Played a few T20 internationals last year. Could be the Kiwi's x-factor.

Jeet Raval- Indian born opening batman, moved to NZ as a kid. Highly rated.

But let's not get carried away. NZ will almost certainly never be the top ranked test team. They just don't have the depth of talent. Their batting remains a big worry, even if they have a very good attack.n They can aim for 4th in the World at best, imo.

by lardbucket Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:45

Agree they will not get to the top, but 4th or even 3rd is not beyond them. At least they are traveling in the right direction.

by taipan Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:50

lardbucket wrote:Boult looked an absolute gem within his first few overs. Why can't our left-armers bowl like that?

btw, has the due credit been given to NZ's bowling coach?

Who is it now? AD did quite a bit for them prior to the WC,

by Henry Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:56

Damien Wright is the Kiwi bowling coach.

Tasmanian, of course, which is why Lardy mentioned him.

by Henry Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:57

Oh hang on, isn't Wright a Victorian who moved to Tasmania?

by lardbucket Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:57

No, Wright was born in Casino. He came to prominence in Tasmania, and moved to Victoria late in his career.

by lardbucket Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:58

I may have mentioned my belief that he should have played Test cricket.

by PeterCS Mon 12 Dec 2011, 09:08

Too late now, I fear.

Though he might still be needed.

by lardbucket Mon 12 Dec 2011, 09:12

He could play at number 6

by PeterCS Mon 12 Dec 2011, 09:24

And coach the bowlers.

And the batters.

by Allan D Mon 12 Dec 2011, 09:34

When did the Snoozers last win a Test without Harry Potter in the side?

Spoiler:

by lardbucket Wed 07 Jan 2015, 23:43

re NZ's rise to prominence ... just found this thread from 3 years ago

by Basil Thu 08 Jan 2015, 00:51

Not sure they were that good three years ago, but they are pretty decent now. Probably as good as when Hadlee last played for them as there are fewer weak links.

by lardbucket Thu 08 Jan 2015, 00:58

They weren't as good three years ago, but the signs were there!

by taipan Thu 08 Jan 2015, 03:31

Henry wrote:
lardbucket wrote:I know they've only beaten a lowly team, but I think they have real prospects of rising through the ranks:

Bracewell - a successor for Martin has been found
Brownlie - how could the Wozzies miss this bloke?
Williamson - has all the shots, and heaps of time
Boult - what a prospect

If they can keep Taylor, Ryder, Guptill, Southee, Vettori, and McCullum on the park, they will win more Tests. They should beat Sri Lanka easily, for a start. The wicketkeeping position seems unresolved.

I'll add to that-

Neil wagner- Left arm Saffie quick. Qualifies for NZ in a few months. Dominates first class cricket, swings it around at 140kph.

Adam Milne- 19 year old who consistently bowls at 150kph+. Played a few T20 internationals last year. Could be the Kiwi's x-factor.

Jeet Raval- Indian born opening batman, moved to NZ as a kid. Highly rated.

But let's not get carried away. NZ will almost certainly never be the top ranked test team. They just don't have the depth of talent. Their batting remains a big worry, even if they have a very good attack.n They can aim for 4th in the World at best, imo.

Trev goes for the trifecta.

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