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Post by Guest Sun 16 Dec 2007, 17:03

So he's averaging 58 and has 30-odd test hundreds. Let's boil that down a bit:

By the 55 test mark, he averaged 43.76 with 8 centuries. Very good without being great, sort of Graeme Thorpe territory.

In his 57 tests since he averaged a wopping 72, with 23 centuries, nearly one every two tests.

Did anything happen around March 2002?

Well, Donald retired from tests. Walsh had gone six months earlier, Ambrose a bit before that, and Wasim and Waqar were signing off too.

Over Ponting's latter 57 tests, thre were just three unquestionably world-class bowlers: Murali, McGrath and Warne. Ponting only had to face one of those three.

So it appears that his figures are flattered by an age of friendly bowling, and for that reason I can't rate him as highly as I do Greg Chappell or Border.

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Post by PearlJ Sun 16 Dec 2007, 20:29

Wow. Feeling a little 'small' today are we.
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Post by LeFromage Sun 16 Dec 2007, 20:40

Rob I wrote:So he's averaging 58 and has 30-odd test hundreds. Let's boil that down a bit:

By the 55 test mark, he averaged 43.76 with 8 centuries. Very good without being great, sort of Graeme Thorpe territory.

In his 57 tests since he averaged a wopping 72, with 23 centuries, nearly one every two tests.

Did anything happen around March 2002?

Well, Donald retired from tests. Walsh had gone six months earlier, Ambrose a bit before that, and Wasim and Waqar were signing off too.

Over Ponting's latter 57 tests, thre were just three unquestionably world-class bowlers: Murali, McGrath and Warne. Ponting only had to face one of those three.

So it appears that his figures are flattered by an age of friendly bowling, and for that reason I can't rate him as highly as I do Greg Chappell or Border.

He's still the right side of rubbish, though.

Looks a decent player to me. I think he'll make it.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Sun 16 Dec 2007, 20:41

This has been discussed loads of times but has never been resolved. There isn't really anyway to resolve it until some more world class bowlers come along.


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Post by Guest Sun 16 Dec 2007, 20:47

Lara Lara Laughs wrote:This has been discussed loads of times but has never resolved. There isn't really anyway to resolve it until some more world class bowlers come along.

Point.

The 2003-5 England attack had some potential but look what happened to them. There isn't really much else. Shoaib when he can be @rsed, Bond if he ever gets fit, Ntini in SA I suppose.

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Post by tac Sun 16 Dec 2007, 22:34

Rob I wrote:So he's averaging 58 and has 30-odd test hundreds. Let's boil that down a bit:

By the 55 test mark, he averaged 43.76 with 8 centuries. Very good without being great, sort of Graeme Thorpe territory.

In his 57 tests since he averaged a wopping 72, with 23 centuries, nearly one every two tests.

Did anything happen around March 2002?


Now, of course, this is just Rob having a little sook.

However, Punter only averaged 36 with 3 centuries after 22 tests and that was in 1998-99. Seems his avergae has just kept increasing as he matured as a batsman.
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Post by please don't yell Mon 17 Dec 2007, 05:15

So basically what you're saying rob is that if you average less than 70 after 2002 you can't be much of a batsman?

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Post by please don't yell Mon 17 Dec 2007, 05:16

Oh wait is Rob I mr robby from c4?

If so why did i waste 8 seconds of my life replying to him...

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Post by skully Mon 17 Dec 2007, 05:33

Punter's grouse. End of.
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Post by Zat Mon 17 Dec 2007, 05:44

Rob I's back? I thought he was dead. Such a shame.

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Post by embee Mon 17 Dec 2007, 05:47

Zat wrote:Rob I's back? I thought he was dead. Such a shame.

He just smells like he is ...
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Post by Invader Zim Mon 17 Dec 2007, 05:48

C'mon lads, Robi thrives on this sort of attention.

Best to treat it like Laggers...hey, there's an idea?
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Post by Zat Mon 17 Dec 2007, 05:50

Makes a change from poking Mudge with a stick though, you have to admit that.

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Post by Invader Zim Mon 17 Dec 2007, 05:53

[shrugs] All shit smells the same when you poke it with a stick.
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Post by Zat Mon 17 Dec 2007, 05:56

Especially that pommy bloke from Day 2 at the 'G.

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Post by taipan Mon 17 Dec 2007, 06:03

Just don't confuse Rob I with Rob S
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Post by embee Mon 17 Dec 2007, 06:04

Donald never dismissed Punter
Walsh dismissed him 4 times
Waqar has dismissed Punter 3 times ( at the ave score of 97!!!!!)
Wasim Akram one time
Ambrose one time
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Post by Zat Mon 17 Dec 2007, 06:07

Here we go, facts to get in the way of a spurious argument again...

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Post by Guest Mon 17 Dec 2007, 06:14

embee wrote:Donald never dismissed Punter
Walsh dismissed him 4 times
Waqar has dismissed Punter 3 times ( at the ave score of 97!!!!!)
Wasim Akram one time
Ambrose one time

Now, here's a proper response to a thread about cricket. Are you saying that the mediocre bowlers were getting him out in his early days, instead of the good ones?

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Post by Zat Mon 17 Dec 2007, 06:17

No, I think he was blowing your spurious argument out of the water. Probably because the rest of us realised you're a troll.

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Post by horace Mon 17 Dec 2007, 06:23

what is going on???...yet another pomgolian seems to be wigging out
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Post by Guest Mon 17 Dec 2007, 06:33

please don't yell wrote:So basically what you're saying rob is that if you average less than 70 after 2002 you can't be much of a batsman?

If you read my post you will see that I was wondering how Chappell and Border would do in an era where there is only one world-class bowler to face, compared to Ponting.

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Post by Guest Mon 17 Dec 2007, 06:35

Zat wrote:No, I think he was blowing your spurious argument out of the water. Probably because the rest of us realised you're a troll.

I'd say Zim said so and the rest jumped on the bandwagon.

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Post by taipan Mon 17 Dec 2007, 06:36

Zat wrote:No, I think he was blowing your spurious argument out of the water. Probably because the rest of us realised you're a troll.

I haven't always agreed with Rob I but on the other hand haven't viewed him as a troll either
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Post by Zat Mon 17 Dec 2007, 06:37

taipan wrote:I haven't always agreed with Rob I but on the other hand haven't viewed him as a troll either
Yeah, but I said it was a shame he was still alive before Zimi said anything...

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