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Post by PlanetPakistan Wed 13 Mar 2013, 23:51

I am a fan of his batting, there is a lot of talk about Cook but i reckon this guy is equally good. Also, he is very graceful(unlike Cook)
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Post by LeFromage Wed 13 Mar 2013, 23:58

Not a ruthless as Cook. Trott's been throwing it away in the last 18 months - become a bit of a swisher outside off stump.

But he's a nuggetly little f*cker who the opposition must loathe.
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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 14 Mar 2013, 00:04

I don't watch too many games involving England but out of the 9 or 10 (out of Trott's 40) test matches that i have seen( plus the highlights) i don't think i have ever seen him look out of form or some one who does NOT belong in test cricket. Cook on the other hand looked awful against Aamer and Asif.
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Post by PeterCS Thu 14 Mar 2013, 00:10

Trott can be a nudger and nurdler, but I like his balls.

Not literally.
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Post by Basil Thu 14 Mar 2013, 00:30

PeterCS wrote:Trott can be a nudger and nurdler, but I like his balls.

Not literally.

Come on, admit it - you like a bit of Bell
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Post by PlanetPakistan Thu 14 Mar 2013, 03:23

Youngster just scored a century! What a player
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Post by taipan Thu 14 Mar 2013, 03:26

PlanetPakistan wrote:Youngster just scored a century! What a player

No wonder Paksters get confused with Afridi's age. He's almost 32.
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Post by Henry Thu 14 Mar 2013, 05:28

The Trott cover drive is one of the prettiest shots in the game.
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 14 Mar 2013, 07:30

He's a top player, but wot Dello said.
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Post by LeFromage Thu 14 Mar 2013, 08:34

Easily the best number three England have had in my lifetime. Which might not be saying much as MIchael Vaughan is probably next on the list, but it's reassuring to have a rock solid bloke who's selfish for runs coming in first drop.

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Post by Red Thu 14 Mar 2013, 09:40

Certainly been a rock with the only real negative aspect being his average of 33 from the seven tests he has played against SA home and away.
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Post by Henry Thu 14 Mar 2013, 10:34

Pakistan?
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 14 Mar 2013, 10:37

Henry wrote:Pakistan?

For once, I wasn't going to.
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Post by Henry Thu 14 Mar 2013, 10:42

It's just become ingrained into my mind everytime Red quotes stats. You c*nt.
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Post by PeterCS Thu 14 Mar 2013, 10:57

Well played, distant sprog of Alberto (apparently).

And also to less distant sprog of the Brylcreem Boy.
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Post by doctorspin Thu 14 Mar 2013, 16:30

Dello wrote:Not a ruthless as Cook. Trott's been throwing it away in the last 18 months - become a bit of a swisher outside off stump.

But he's a nuggetly little f*cker who the opposition must loathe.
I think just as loathsome to the opposition are his rituals between each delivery and at arriving at the crease. And for that, I say "Top Man".
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Post by doctorspin Thu 14 Mar 2013, 16:34

PlanetPakistan wrote:I don't watch too many games involving England but out of the 9 or 10 (out of Trott's 40) test matches that i have seen( plus the highlights) i don't think i have ever seen him look out of form or some one who does NOT belong in test cricket. Cook on the other hand looked awful against Aamer and Asif.
I think that was the period when Cook was at his lowest and poorest form and revealed his weakness outside off-stump. He went away and worked on it, successfully it would seem, the mark of a great or potentially great player. But they should have taken the opportunity to sack him then. QUNTS.
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Post by PeterCS Thu 14 Mar 2013, 17:03

doctorspin wrote:
Dello wrote:Not a ruthless as Cook. Trott's been throwing it away in the last 18 months - become a bit of a swisher outside off stump.

But he's a nuggetly little f*cker who the opposition must loathe.
I think just as loathsome to the opposition are his rituals between each delivery and at arriving at the crease. And for that, I say "Top Man".

By Gadfry, well spoken, sir!
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 14 Mar 2013, 17:43

His merciless fiddling has done a fine fine job for England. But I must admit that he's heavily annoyed me at times.
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Post by lardbucket Thu 14 Mar 2013, 20:25

doctorspin wrote:]I think that was the period when Cook was at his lowest and poorest form and revealed his weakness outside off-stump. He went away and worked on it, successfully it would seem, the mark of a great or potentially great player. But they should have taken the opportunity to sack him then. QUNTS.

LOL and 'pos'

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Post by beamer Thu 14 Mar 2013, 21:53

Dello wrote:Easily the best number three England have had in my lifetime. Which might not be saying much as MIchael Vaughan is probably next on the list, but it's reassuring to have a rock solid bloke who's selfish for runs coming in first drop.

Well, not sure of your age but here's the top England number 3s from the last 30 years:

Butcher 2796 @ 38.30
Trott 2539 @ 49.78
Hussain 2352 @ 40.55
Gower 2270 @ 50.44
Vaughan 1494 @ 40.37
Bell 1437 @ 39.91
Gatting 1330 @ 44.00
Stewart 1307 @ 43.56
Hick 1141 @ 34.57

These are the only ones worthy of a mention really, next in line is Cook who has only played 12 innings there! Surprised to see Butcher has batted more at number 3 than anyone else in that time. But Trott could soon have the top aggregate and average...

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Post by LeFromage Thu 14 Mar 2013, 22:13

Gower, I should've remembered, but his career was coming to a close as I was starting out on my cricketing journey. Not sure I saw the best of him (live).

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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 14 Mar 2013, 22:13

Still think Butcher was a very good player. His career should've been better than it was. Bags of talent.
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Post by doctorspin Thu 14 Mar 2013, 22:51

Dello wrote:Gower, I should've remembered, but his career was coming to a close as I was starting out on my cricketing journey. Not sure I saw the best of him (live).

The thing about Gower was, however long one of his innings may be, and however much he made; you never really noticed it, until the inevitable waft outside off; and he'd be gone. That's it, Goodnight Folks. GAWN!
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Post by beamer Thu 14 Mar 2013, 23:02

We've always had good openers in that time - Gooch, Atherton, Stewart, Vaughan, Trescothick, Strauss and Cook to name the most prominent ones - but number 3 has always been a trickier one to fill. Nasser was pretty solid there for a while. Think we saw the best of Vaughan when he was opening. But at times we've been torn between playing a "third opener" and putting an attacking strokeplayer there. Trott's certainly nailed down the slot more firmly than anyone for years though, just think that at the start of that 2009 Ashes series in which he made his debut it was between Belf and Chavi Flops for the position!

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