South Africa v Australia, 2nd Test, Port Elizabeth, 20-24 February, 2014

dont know ...but the quotes are 'attributed' to the curator

It has the hallmarks of her work. She is a terrible journalist. Of course, a certain person here will take it as gospel truth.

hehehehe...what are you two going to do when Sniffy retires

horace wrote:hehehehe...what are you two going to do when Sniffy retires

I think she will off herself. Life will have lost its meaning.

Weather not looking good:

http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/SFXX0041?par=cricinfo&site=www.espncricinfo.com&promo=0&cm_ven=cricinfo&cm_cat=grounds&cm_pla=citypg&cm_ite=wx-hbh

So If Alviro Petersen succumbs to this viral infection, do they drop Duminy, bring de Kock in at 7, and call up Elgar to open with Smith?

Surely they're not considering giving de Kock a debut as a test opener (presumably without the gloves)

Henry wrote:So If Alviro Petersen succumbs to this viral infection, do they drop Duminy, bring de Kock in at 7, and call up Elgar to open with Smith?

Surely they're not considering giving de Kock a debut as a test opener (presumably without the gloves)

It wouldn't surprise me. Hopefully Hudson is consulting with his superior.

Maybe it depends if de Kock is considered "coloured" or not?

I read about a year ago that he might be (not that it should matter at all FFS)

Henry wrote:Maybe it depends if de Kock is considered "coloured" or not?

I read about a year ago that he might be (not that it should matter at all FFS)

It shouldn't matter, however my sons played with a guy who made his Lions debut this season and he says De Kock is PoC.

According to the radio news it's fine in PE atm.

Don't think that piece you were referring to was written by the dreaded Moonda; think it was an Aussie journo. Smacked a bit of a whingeing mentality as if we're squeaky clean.

Henry wrote:So If Alviro Petersen succumbs to this viral infection, do they drop Duminy, bring de Kock in at 7, and call up Elgar to open with Smith?

Surely they're not considering giving de Kock a debut as a test opener (presumably without the gloves)

Maxwell said on the 5 p.m. news that it was likely that SA would make three changes with de Kock, Elgar and Parnell replacing Peterson, Petersen and McLaren. If this is the case Elgar would probably open but it was mentioned earlier today that dk might take the gloves.  And Clarke hinted on the news that we go for an all pace attack and he even alluded to Watto has being a chance to play.

Robin Peterson was allegedly spotted in a bar so maybe unlikely.

Aus are unchanged. de Kock will make his debut, but is unlikely to open as Elgar has come in for Alviro. Parnell replaces Robbie P.

Red wrote:

Henry wrote:So If Alviro Petersen succumbs to this viral infection, do they drop Duminy, bring de Kock in at 7, and call up Elgar to open with Smith?

Surely they're not considering giving de Kock a debut as a test opener (presumably without the gloves)

Maxwell said on the 5 p.m. news that it was likely that SA would make three changes with de Kock, Elgar and Parnell replacing Peterson, Petersen and McLaren. If this is the case Elgar would probably open but it was mentioned earlier today that dk might take the gloves.  And Clarke hinted on the news that we go for an all pace attack and he even alluded to Watto has being a chance to play.

Robin Peterson was allegedly spotted in a bar so maybe unlikely.

It would be ludicrous if that led South Africa to change their tactics, ie they WOULD have played a spinner but for a disciplinary issue. If Peterson was stood down then another spinner should have been called up. Who knows, maybe another one was but the conditions led them to leave him out.

Henry wrote:Aus are unchanged. de Kock will make his debut, but is unlikely to open as Elgar has come in for Alviro. Parnell replaces Robbie P.

So I had it right then,  

It's overcast according to Jesse Hogan on radio and so both captains will be tempted to bowl.

Henry wrote:

Red wrote:

Henry wrote:So If Alviro Petersen succumbs to this viral infection, do they drop Duminy, bring de Kock in at 7, and call up Elgar to open with Smith?

Surely they're not considering giving de Kock a debut as a test opener (presumably without the gloves)

Maxwell said on the 5 p.m. news that it was likely that SA would make three changes with de Kock, Elgar and Parnell replacing Peterson, Petersen and McLaren. If this is the case Elgar would probably open but it was mentioned earlier today that dk might take the gloves.  And Clarke hinted on the news that we go for an all pace attack and he even alluded to Watto has being a chance to play.

Robin Peterson was allegedly spotted in a bar so maybe unlikely.

It would be ludicrous if that led South Africa to change their tactics, ie they WOULD have played a spinner but for a disciplinary issue. If Peterson was stood down then another spinner should have been called up. Who knows, maybe another one was but the conditions led them to leave him out.

No the journos made the comment because it was on the eve of the match so they assumed he knew he wasn't playing.

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Henry wrote:Aus are unchanged. de Kock will make his debut, but is unlikely to open as Elgar has come in for Alviro. Parnell replaces Robbie P.

Finally.

This is the team I picked before the series except I had Abbott in for Parnell

taipan wrote:

Henry wrote:Aus are unchanged. de Kock will make his debut, but is unlikely to open as Elgar has come in for Alviro. Parnell replaces Robbie P.

Finally.

This is the team I picked before the series except I had Abbott in for Parnell

Looks better on paper at least. One might suggest that the Petersons in every guise could be redundant in terms of SA's future.

SAf win the toss and bat.

skully wrote:SAf win the toss and bat.

Overcast and a greenish pitch. Maybe had Smith not got it wrong last week he may have bowled here.   Perhaps didn't want to risk sending us in twice and it turning sour though as the commentators mentioned it will be tough up front with the bat.

A bad month for Pietersen/Peterson/Petersen people.

Which of the three is most likely to play for South Africa again?

Wicket looks flat and slow.

taipan wrote:

Henry wrote:Maybe it depends if de Kock is considered "coloured" or not?

I read about a year ago that he might be (not that it should matter at all FFS)

It shouldn't matter, however my sons played with a guy who made his Lions debut this season and he says De Kock is PoC.

PoC?

Maiden. One edge that didn't carry but no other worries.

skully wrote:Wicket looks flat and slow.

Aye. Bowling going to be hard work. Thought Saf might have bowled given they have 4 quicks.