Moores out, Strauss in - official

Thought it deserved its own thread... another of the ECB Clowns has departed, though done in typically clumsy English cricket fashion that will buy him some degree of sympathy.

Paul Farbrace in caretaker charge against the now ironically-named Snoozers... chance to throw his hat into the ring though his association with the past year's regime won't help.

On the face of it, Strauss's arrival is good news for Cook but having seen two of those who backed him a year ago depart now, he's the only man in the firing line if this summer isn't a success.

Peter Moores said today: “At the moment it’s difficult to put into words how I feel except to say how disappointed I am in the way my term as England Coach has ended. I will walk away knowing I’ve given my all to the role and always put the team at the front of any decision making.

Lying tit.

Two nice boys from nice families and nice schools working together.

England just need to go the whole hog and start putting gentleman or player next to the names of everyone who plays for them.

@ eowyn, Re: two posts above this.

I don't see what's mendacious about what he said.

Sentence 1 seems to say (slightly diplomatically, but plainly enough): "I've been knifed."

And I don't doubt the sincerity or even accuracy of the rest, one bit. Effort, intense grinding effort, has never been the problem with Peter Moores. If anything, he overdoes the intense effort.

It's the lack of insight, the apparent inability to get beyond the data and focus on what matters, hence the evident failure to work out (with a few exceptions) what makes players tick and then work on and with that, instead of imposing formulae on their heads, ..... that has been the big problem.

Coach Unimaginatively Bland (formerly Capt Unimaginatively Bland) joins Captain Unimaginatively Negative.

Captain Unimaginately Negative Tosspot ...

Time for a new avatar then!

I don't feel sorry for him at all - there just wasn't anything there to show us that he was doing anything to change the way that England play. Which is all that anybody was really hoping for.

PeterCS wrote:@ eowyn, Re: two posts above this.

I don't see what's mendacious about what he said.

Sentence 1 seems to say (slightly diplomatically, but plainly enough): "I've been knifed."

And I don't doubt the sincerity or even accuracy of the rest, one bit. Effort, intense grinding effort, has never been the problem with Peter Moores. If anything, he overdoes the intense effort.

It's the lack of insight, the apparent inability to get beyond the data and focus on what matters, hence the evident failure to work out (with a few exceptions) what makes players tick and then work on and with that, instead of imposing formulae on their heads, ..... that has been the big problem.

Agree with you largely Peter - however, I disagree re: the 'always putting the interest of the team first' part of Moores's statement.

To me, the selection policy in the recent WI series, especially the final test, smacked of a guy (and maybe include Cook in this too) desperate to protect his own position by promoting short term needs rather than investing in the long term benefit of the team by selecting Lyth, Wood, Rashid.

krikri wrote:Time for a new avatar then!

I don't feel sorry for him at all - there just wasn't anything there to show us that he was doing anything to change the way that England play. Which is all that anybody was really hoping for.

Agree with you - no sympathy for Moores. He's presumably been paid off handsomely twice...for being incompetent.

Don't kill of the avatar just yet - maybe he'll stage another comeback like some horror movie villain, his hand bursting through the strip at Lords and dragging Strauss down into the netherworld.

The "lying tit" was about the "always putting the team first". I think he put his "favourites" first.

Apparently, Strauss will have a role of some sort in selection. On that basis, it looks like Whittaker will also be for the chop.

Moores should never have been appointed in the first place. Aside from a few typically conservative ECB cheerleader types in the media (Pringle Agnew), I don't think anyone else thought his second stint would be anything other than an abject failure.

Where to from here? Getting shot of Whitaker, Angus Fraser and Mike Newell and starting the selection panel from scratch would be a start. Cleaning out the hopelessly failing National Academy that has produced not a single internationally competent spinner or fast bowler, in spite of millions of pounds of investment and the best facilities money can buy should be next on the agenda.

Burn it down, collect the insurance.

That's the Dello way, is it?

One insurance job after another?

No wonder you're so rich. And insidiously pyromaniac.

The Academy should be a good thing, if they got coaches who knew anything about bowling, and concentrated on fine tuning special talents instead of turning them into "strengthed and conditioned" medium pace robots. And paid Shane Warne whatever he demands to develop us a world class leg spinner...

eowyn wrote:The "lying tit" was about the "always putting the team first". I think he put his "favourites" first.

theyre the only part of the team that matters

Before the Strauss appointment - Graeme Smith on twitter.

If English cricket appoint Strauss as director of cricket , it would amaze me, they need to move away from the head boy old school approach!

And less than 2 months to the first ball of the Ashes.

I don't know how that occurred to me.

Dello wrote:Moores should never have been appointed in the first place. Aside from a few typically conservative ECB cheerleader types in the media (Pringle Agnew), I don't think anyone else thought his second stint would be anything other than an abject failure.

Athers was a bit of a cheerleader, no?

The right decision, done in a typically terrible way by the ECB.

Moores found out during the Ireland ODI that he'd been sacked. The only thing is, he found out through leaks to the media rather than being informed directly by the ECB. They told him later that evening.

What a shambles the ECB are. Despicable. Even when making a decision that most of the public agrees with, they manage to do it in a way that makes people hate them even more.

Fast bowler Stuart Broad described the sacking as “sad”. “It’s very sad news that Peter has left,” Broad wrote in the Daily Mail. “He is a good man and we all feel we made progress under him. “He trusted players and wasn’t too prescriptive and when we left Barbados it felt very much as if the players and staff were on the same page even if the last Test result did not go our way. “Having said that, the news that Strauss will fill the vacant director of cricket role is excellent. “It’s a very shrewd move. I’ve heard people say he is too close to players in the dressing room who he played alongside and captained but I think that’s a load of nonsense.”


If you loved Moores so much ...why didnt you play with some sort of purpose ...maybe if he'd got up you for being a stupid bowler and a scared rabbit batsman he'd still have a job

If you love Straussy so much ...then he is too close to people in the dressing room

krikri wrote:Time for a new avatar then!

I don't feel sorry for him at all - there just wasn't anything there to show us that he was doing anything to change the way that England play. Which is all that anybody was really hoping for.

Jason Gillespie, perhaps!


I'd agree, Moores had nothing additional to bring to the party.
His team structure was ultra conservative (I can't believe I actually said that! Sorry David Cameron!)).
Clearly he was a "250 runs in a day is perfectly acceptable in a Test"  person ...
There was no excitement ... no spark of trying something different.
Just the same old. Same old.

Poor form for the ECB though in the way the news was delivered to him.

Stop frightening eowyn with the Dizzy talk, Merls!


Your final line: completely agree. Grim, unprofessional.

Peter, you have no idea how many spells I've cast...

The ECB makes CA look like a vaguely competent organisation...agree with Henry that the sacking has been shambolic

horace wrote:The ECB makes CA look like a vaguely competent organisation...agree with Henry that the sacking has been shambolic

Can't say I disagree with that sentiment, horald.
Perhaps things will begin to calm down a tad once Colin Graves (a good man at the helm)
has settled into the job - as will Strauss.

I'm not so keen on Strauss getting the gig (too soon out of the dressing room), however,
give him time and see what unfolds.
His first act of getting rid of the "past sell-by date" Moores (albeit shambolicly) was, for me, a step in the right direction.

Appointing a coach with flair and an understanding of modern Test cricket would be the next best thing.

Step forward Jason Gillespie (with a little help from the Tyke chairman Groves) ...