Australia v England, 2nd Test, Adelaide, 2-6 December, 2017

taipan wrote:

beamer wrote:

Red wrote:

beamer wrote:We really have to invest all our resources in developing 90mph bowlers if we’re ever going to succeed in Australia again. None of this strength and conditioning shit, coaching all the raw pace out of them. We’ll always find reasonably accurate 80mph swing and seam bowlers who can roll teams over in English conditions, so we can leave that department to look after itself.

That's it in a nutshell, military mediums who can move into in pommieland often don't cut the mustard here.  They don't seem to produce many with scintillating pace.

I guess they tried to go too “horses for courses” four years ago by picking the washed up Tremlett, “unselectable” Finn, and crap and unfit Rankin. But now it seems a case of just picking who they think is next in line and hoping for the best, rather than looking for specific types of bowler or any real variety in the attack.

Probably the biggest problem is that Jimmy doesn't put his hand up away from home.

He used to be able to play away. Can remember him flogging his heart out in India a few years ago. However at his age he needs curdled pitch conditions and the Duke to be effective.

horace wrote:

taipan wrote:

beamer wrote:

Red wrote:

beamer wrote:We really have to invest all our resources in developing 90mph bowlers if we’re ever going to succeed in Australia again. None of this strength and conditioning shit, coaching all the raw pace out of them. We’ll always find reasonably accurate 80mph swing and seam bowlers who can roll teams over in English conditions, so we can leave that department to look after itself.

That's it in a nutshell, military mediums who can move into in pommieland often don't cut the mustard here.  They don't seem to produce many with scintillating pace.

I guess they tried to go too “horses for courses” four years ago by picking the washed up Tremlett, “unselectable” Finn, and crap and unfit Rankin. But now it seems a case of just picking who they think is next in line and hoping for the best, rather than looking for specific types of bowler or any real variety in the attack.

Probably the biggest problem is that Jimmy doesn't put his hand up away from home.

He used to be able to play away. Can remember him flogging his heart out in India a few years ago. However at his age he needs curdled pitch conditions and the Duke to be effective.

Maybe horrie, but the fact is that he averages 24 in England and about 40 in both Aus and SA, two countries where quickies should thrive.

I'm out, going to pretend it's not happening. Ashes tours just aren't fun.

Remember when an Ashes thread would get hundreds of pages and actually run out of thread leading to part IIs, IIIs, IIIIs and more.

*a single tear rolls down cheek for all that was lost*

Aye LLL. Less than good times.

Fact is these are also two average teams. Few players from either side will be remembered as champs by future generations.

It's more about a maturing forum than the quality of cricket.

Most of the diehards are still here (although I thought Dan might've dropped in by now).

horace wrote:Aye LLL.  Less than good times.

Fact is these are also two average teams. Few players from either side will be remembered as champs by future generations.

I very much doubt future generations will be watching test cricket.

horace wrote:Aye LLL.  Less than good times.

Fact is these are also two average teams. Few players from either side will be remembered as champs by future generations.

Steve Smith would need an extraordinary run of bad form to not end as a Great

Shit captaincy and a fidgety technique (and possible failings as a human ) get forgotten over time

Big statistical numbers do not


Chef Jimmeh and Lady Di already have the numbers

Well said, A.

h has regrettably become ridiculously critical and bitter about ALL things in life of late. I worry about our good mate. It seems to have coincided with his departure from the workforce.

Perhaps lack of human contact is weighing negatively on him.

C'mon, smile h, it's not ALL bad.

Regarding our cricketers, I have always taken the view that criticism is fair when it's well due (and allowed to be vociferous), but equally, when they do well a loud "huzzah" is called for and much deserved.

I just saw the Cook and Vince's combined fumble and drop in the slips cordon.  Just the kind of thing that's dead funny once you know no one's injured.  

There's an article in cricinfo as Marsh's straight six off Broad as a defining image of this Ashes.

This may well be in the running also:

Purple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vince gawn!!!!!!! 2-31

2nd angling for the falling over lbw to Root.

Oh yeah baby!!! 2nd has Root caught at 3rd slip.

3-50.

MrsR has good hands in the cordon.

Cook's looking pretty solid mind you.

I thought substitute fieldsmen were normally outstanding at that part of the game. That young bloke wouldn't be used as a sub by the Chinghee Creek B grade team.

Why would an umpire give that out? It was always going to be a mile too high!

embee wrote:

horace wrote:Aye LLL.  Less than good times.

Fact is these are also two average teams. Few players from either side will be remembered as champs by future generations.

Steve Smith would need an extraordinary run of bad form to not end as a Great

Shit captaincy and a fidgety technique (and possible failings as a human ) get forgotten over time

Big statistical numbers do not


Chef Jimmeh and Lady Di already have the numbers

I did say few. Would certainly inc Seasick and the three Poms as players who will be remembered as champs. Lyon will be remembered as a v good player.

skully wrote:Well said, A.

h has regrettably become ridiculously critical and bitter about ALL things in life of late. I worry about our good mate. It seems to have coincided with his departure from the workforce.

Perhaps lack of human contact is weighing negatively on him.

C'mon, smile h, it's not ALL bad.

Regarding our cricketers, I have always taken the view that criticism is fair when it's well due (and allowed to be vociferous), but equally, when they do well a loud "huzzah" is called for and much deserved.

Huh?

Still doing bits and pieces of work. Of course I'm watching-listening to the cricket. At the moment I'm in the Public Bar of the Caledonian Pub in downtown Echuca. Avoiding non cricket chatter with the locals. They are a few blokes here who sound like QBillies. One of them laughed before when I cursed the fakin DRS.

Ex Mrs H is due to finish and then we head back to Castlemaine.

Even with the handicap of the Koalas, that team would shred our current mob.

And btw, I did acknowledge Stinking Bogs effort and Paine' s improved performance in the second innings at Brisbane. And I have only been positive about Bangers.

I don't think you realise just how crotchety you've been in the past few months, h.

Even laid back chaps like lardy have taken issue with your negative harping.

Carry on, old fruit, it matters not to me. It was more an observation on my part.

And as I write this, Elmer snares Chef!!!!

WideWally wrote:Why would an umpire give that out? It was always going to be a mile too high!

Aye, it was odd. Dar seemed to think it was not out then belatedly changed his mind. Didn't look out live.

Elmer is loving these Pom lefthanders.

1 wicket apiece to the Aus attack. Good team work.

Admit to ennui about the relentless boosting of Bailey and Paine.

The final straw with CA and the NSP for me was the recall of the sokpoc. The selection of Bog after his dismal tour has not helped.

JGK wrote:Cook's looking pretty solid mind you.

Your form is permanent.