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Post by lardbucket Thu 31 Jan 2008, 05:52

... remarkably similar series bowling stats.

I guess they're both shit and will never play Test cricket again. Although perhaps Hogg can be excused partly on the grounds he was bowling at the best players of spin in world cricket.

Warne thinks so ...


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Post by horace Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:03

both bowled dross...Harpy's doosra is less effective since made to change action...why was Harpy targeted more than MuMU to change his action???

Piggsy always struggled to be a decent 4 day spinner...little surprise he was a failure
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Post by doremi Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:05

Kumble really rates Harbhajan, so I doubt Adelaide will be his last test, unless the selectors come down hard on him.

Or the BCCI for making them spend a few thousand Rs. more for flying the lawyer there.
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Post by lardbucket Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:06

If Hogg's finished after suffering at the hands of Tendulkar and Laxman et al, logically Harbhajan (even worse figures) is also finished?

Hogg's figures in this series weren't much worse than Warne's and MacGill's when they were last challenged by the Indian batsmen.

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Post by horace Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:08

phurt...magoo is finished...and TGM was getting over his injury
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Post by HH_pink Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:09

horace wrote:both bowled dross...Harpy's doosra is less effective since made to change action...why was Harpy targeted more than MuMU to change his action???

Because he wasn't "born" that way. Poor Harby.
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Post by lardbucket Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:10

HH_pink wrote:
horace wrote:both bowled dross...Harpy's doosra is less effective since made to change action...why was Harpy targeted more than MuMU to change his action???

Because he wasn't "born" that way. Poor Harby.

Could have been. Is there photographic evidence that he wasn't?

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Post by Zat Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:12

lardbucket wrote:
HH_pink wrote:
horace wrote:both bowled dross...Harpy's doosra is less effective since made to change action...why was Harpy targeted more than MuMU to change his action???

Because he wasn't "born" that way. Poor Harby.

Could have been. Is there photographic evidence that he wasn't?
Are you asking if someone was around to photograph his maa ki when he was born? That's a bit off, even for a Tasmanian.

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Post by Mick Sawyer Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:15

HS consistently bowled the wrong line & was too dim to change it.

Hoggy is a true wrist spinner & bowled a similar % of 4 balls to any wristy in the last 40 years, bar one.
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Post by HH_pink Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:17

Laughing @ Zat.
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Post by doremi Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:18

Kumble?
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Post by tac Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:20

doremi wrote:Kumble?

Kumble spins it? scratch
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Post by doremi Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:22

tac wrote:
doremi wrote:Kumble?

Kumble spins it? scratch

20 wickets in 5 innings in unresponsive tracks would seem to indicate he does.
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Post by tac Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:26

doremi wrote:
tac wrote:
doremi wrote:Kumble?

Kumble spins it? scratch

20 wickets in 5 innings in unresponsive tracks would seem to indicate he does.

5 innings?
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Post by HH_pink Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:30

doremi wrote:
tac wrote:
doremi wrote:Kumble?

Kumble spins it? scratch

20 wickets in 5 innings in unresponsive tracks would seem to indicate he does.

Not necessarily. It could mean he confuses the batsmen by his lethal pace-bounce variation combo coupled with the lack of any massive spin. I think I must've seen him try and spin the ball and actually succeed about 10 times through all these years.
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Post by Mick Sawyer Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:35

doremi wrote:Kumble?

Kumble is not the "one" I referred to. He releases his leggy from between thumb & forefinger. He doesn't rip it with his ring finger and his wrist and therefore has greater control. While I have the greatest respect for his bowling I don't regard him as a true "wristy".
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Post by doremi Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:47

tac wrote:
doremi wrote:
tac wrote:
doremi wrote:Kumble?

Kumble spins it? scratch

20 wickets in 7 innings in unresponsive tracks would seem to indicate he does.

5 innings?

Fixed.
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Post by HH_pink Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:48

And made tac seem dumb at the same time. Well done, doremi. Smile
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Post by doremi Thu 31 Jan 2008, 06:48

HH_pink wrote:
doremi wrote:
tac wrote:
doremi wrote:Kumble?

Kumble spins it? scratch

20 wickets in 5 innings in unresponsive tracks would seem to indicate he does.

Not necessarily. It could mean he confuses the batsmen by his lethal pace-bounce variation combo coupled with the lack of any massive spin. I think I must've seen him try and spin the ball and actually succeed about 10 times through all these years.

Oh he spins it alright. Especially the last 5 years or so.
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Post by leg glancer Thu 31 Jan 2008, 21:16

I'd say he's more of a 'tweaker' than a spinner.
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Post by furriner Thu 31 Jan 2008, 21:17

Zat wrote:Are you asking if someone was around to photograph his maa ki when he was born? That's a bit off, even for a Tasmanian.

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