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Post by Fred Nerk Thu 12 Jun 2008, 10:25

Viv looked ordinary at times on the SCG bunsens (on which most of his team-mates usually looked worse), but he himself rated his 60 against Holland and Bennett a better innings than his double century a week before at the MCG, on a pitch not much better. Spin bowling challenged him, and late-career Viv often seemed in need of challenge. Watching Warne get flogged by Tendulkar and milked by Shastri in his first Test, it is easy to envisage Viv at Shastri's end may have ended Shane's career there and then, and shudder. But Aravinda de Silva, who Warne copped in his 3rd Test with an average of 300+, wasn't considered bad against spin either, and neither for that matter was Gatting....

We only missed out on this by about nine months and two Oz-WI Tests. What might have happened?

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Post by JGK Thu 12 Jun 2008, 10:27

What might have happened?

Pidge would have got Viv first.

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Post by PeterCS Thu 12 Jun 2008, 17:44

I thought this was going to be another of those "Which one is greater than God?" threads.
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Post by Guest Thu 12 Jun 2008, 18:30

Viv had some difficulties against Chandra, and Qadir got a him a few times too. I'd be inclined to think that Warne would do well against him, though he'd be clouted for a few sixes too.

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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 24 Jun 2008, 07:15

I thought Viv was good against spin and did really well against the Indian spinners.
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Post by taipan Tue 24 Jun 2008, 07:16

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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 24 Jun 2008, 07:17

If WI of the early 80s were to play the strongest Aussie side( 06 ashes winning team) then SK Warne is THE only person who can swing the match towards to AUS.
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Post by JGK Tue 24 Jun 2008, 08:48

PlanetPakistan wrote:If WI of the early 80s were to play the strongest Aussie side( 06 ashes winning team) then SK Warne is THE only person who can swing the match towards to AUS.


So are you saying that the Aust team would have won?

(FTR - I don't think the 06 team was the strongest Aust has had for the last decade).

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Post by embee Tue 24 Jun 2008, 09:06

Not sure if these teams ever played but ...

Haynes
Greenidge
Richardson
Richards
Lloyd
Logie...Hooper
Dujon
Marshall
Garner
Holding
Walsh....Harper/Ambrose?/Benjamin(s)/Bishop/Baptiste/Patterson

Hayden
Langer ...Taylor/Slater
Ponting
M Waugh
S Waugh
Martyn...Lehmann/Clarke
Gilchrist
Warne
Gillespie
Fleming/Miller/Lee/Kasprowicz
McGrath
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Post by JGK Tue 24 Jun 2008, 09:08

Pretty sure the first team played in at least one of the tests in 84/5.

The Aust team would have played in the Oval test in 2001 (with Bung).

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Post by Chandan Tue 24 Jun 2008, 12:51

You think Mcgrath of this decade would have let Viv play some of the strokes that he did on ordinary bowlers?




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Post by taipan Tue 24 Jun 2008, 12:54

Chandan wrote:You think Mcgrath of this decade would have let Viv play some of the strokes that he did on ordinary bowlers?




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Don't see how he could have stopped him
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Tue 24 Jun 2008, 13:13

embee wrote:Not sure if these teams ever played but ...

Haynes
Greenidge
Richardson
Richards
Lloyd
Logie...Hooper
Dujon
Marshall
Garner
Holding
Walsh....Harper/Ambrose?/Benjamin(s)/Bishop/Baptiste/Patterson

Hayden
Langer ...Taylor/Slater
Ponting
M Waugh
S Waugh
Martyn...Lehmann/Clarke
Gilchrist
Warne
Gillespie
Fleming/Miller/Lee/Kasprowicz
McGrath

Select XI from that lot.

Haynes
Greenidge
Ponting
Richards
S Waugh
Lloyd*
Gilchrist+
Warne
Marshall
Garner
McGrath

Damn harsh to leave Holding out, but unless you're going to play 5 bowlers what can you do...and then which batsman do you leave out?!

6 Windians v 5 Convicts and of those left out I think the men from the Caribbean look stronger.

Reckon they'd just edge a head-to-head.
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Post by PearlJ Tue 24 Jun 2008, 13:17

I would have Hayden in there.
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Post by JKLever Tue 24 Jun 2008, 13:18

FTB...
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Jun 2008, 13:23

Of the 4 openers, Hayden is the last I'd choose - I think. Gotta have a spinner, Pidge is a must - 2nd choice to Macko IMO. So yeah, the team looks right.
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Post by PearlJ Tue 24 Jun 2008, 13:32

JKLever wrote:FTB...

He's a Fat Track Bully?
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Jun 2008, 13:33

PearlJ wrote:
JKLever wrote:FTB...

He's a Flat Track Bully?

Yes.
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Post by PearlJ Tue 24 Jun 2008, 14:05

Brass Monkey wrote:
PearlJ wrote:
JKLever wrote:FTB...

He's a Fat Track Bully?

Yes.

OK. Although I don't even know what one of those is.
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Jun 2008, 14:21

PearlJ wrote:
OK. Although I don't even know what one of those is.

Champ, if you're that bothered, read the glossary - it's what it's there for.

Glossary - A glossary is a list of terms in a particular domain of knowledge with the definitions for those terms.
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Post by taipan Tue 24 Jun 2008, 14:25

Brass Monkey wrote:
PearlJ wrote:
OK. Although I don't even know what one of those is.

Champ, if you're that bothered, read the glossary - it's what it's there for.

Glossary - A glossary is a list of terms in a particular domain of knowledge with the definitions for those terms.

I think the fat bit confused him.
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Post by Brass Monkey Tue 24 Jun 2008, 14:29

He should stop deleting letters out of his quotes.
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Post by embee Tue 24 Jun 2008, 16:24

Brass Monkey wrote:He should stop deleting letters out of his quotes. being a ****** wit

Fixed
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 24 Jun 2008, 17:50

Chandan wrote:You think Mcgrath of this decade would have let Viv play some of the strokes that he did on ordinary bowlers?




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Viv would hammer Mcgrath even if he(viv) was forced to bat in a burka(see my avatar)
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Post by PlanetPakistan Tue 24 Jun 2008, 17:52

JGK wrote:
PlanetPakistan wrote:If WI of the early 80s were to play the strongest Aussie side( 06 ashes winning team) then SK Warne is THE only person who can swing the match towards to AUS.


So are you saying that the Aust team would have won?

(FTR - I don't think the 06 team was the strongest Aust has had for the last decade).

WI will win the series 2-1!
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