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Post by Zat Fri 26 Dec 2008, 22:22

Cricket South Africa want the next Boxing Day Test between Aus and SAf to be held in South Africa.

Would it draw anywhere near as many as 63,263?

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Post by doremi Fri 26 Dec 2008, 22:31

Meh, give or take 63200.
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Post by Zat Fri 26 Dec 2008, 22:58

Some of the Aus chip wrappers this morning are seriously calling it a small crowd.

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Post by Guest Fri 26 Dec 2008, 23:27

It's sad that Australia and England are the only two countries who you can always count on selling out test matches.

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Dec 2008, 00:36

What an atmosphere that must be though.

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Dec 2008, 00:41

Demelza wrote:What an atmosphere that must be though.
Definately, wish we had a ground that was anywhere near that capacity. We could easily sell it out for either SA or Aus.

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Post by OP Tipping Sat 27 Dec 2008, 01:00

Obviously it is not a small crowd, but given the circumstances of this match some were anticipating a sellout.
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Post by Big_Bad_Bob Sat 27 Dec 2008, 01:02

Were calling an anticipated 80,000 gate on commentary just after play started yesterday.

They were forgetting the fact that the Poms aren't in town to swell the gate this year...
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Post by Zat Sat 27 Dec 2008, 05:03

It's still a damn site bigger than almost anywhere else in the world is likely to draw for Test cricket, and anyone suggesting the BD Test be moved away from the MCG should be told to go and boil their head.

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Post by taipan Sat 27 Dec 2008, 05:59

Zat wrote:It's still a damn site bigger than almost anywhere else in the world is likely to draw for Test cricket, and anyone suggesting the BD Test be moved away from the MCG should be told to go and boil their head.

Why?

Because of the revenue?
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Post by Zat Sat 27 Dec 2008, 06:29

taipan wrote:
Zat wrote:It's still a damn site bigger than almost anywhere else in the world is likely to draw for Test cricket, and anyone suggesting the BD Test be moved away from the MCG should be told to go and boil their head.

Why?

Because of the revenue?
Because the spectacle of teh MCG with that many people on Boxing Day won't be matched for a spectacle anywhere else in the world. (Check the attendance figures for Tests in SAf taips.) And a big spectacle is good for the game globally. As opposed to a game played in a cavernous, near-empty stadium.

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Post by taipan Sat 27 Dec 2008, 06:31

Not disputing the spectacle. Doesn't have to be SA though.
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Post by Nath Sat 27 Dec 2008, 06:33

according to the % quoted on ABC radio today, gate receipts only account for around 5% of CA's revenue and tv rights make up about 70%.
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Post by Zat Sat 27 Dec 2008, 06:35

taipan wrote:Not disputing the spectacle. Doesn't have to be SA though.
At this stage it's only South Africa suggesting it.

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Post by taipan Sat 27 Dec 2008, 06:42

Zat wrote:
taipan wrote:Not disputing the spectacle. Doesn't have to be SA though.
At this stage it's only South Africa suggesting it.
No, all that has been said (and this has been going on since the last tour) that if Aus don't reciprocate, we won't tour over December.
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Post by Zat Sat 27 Dec 2008, 06:52

From http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24701488-2882,00.html
Cricket South Africa chief executive Gerald Majola ... "We would like to tour there any time, including Boxing Day, provided they are prepared to come to us one Boxing Day as well," ... "In fact, we would choose to play them Boxing Day and (then) alternate, that's the first choice. They are not prepared to do that."

So what he's said is 'South Africa wants a Boxing Day home Test'

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Post by taipan Sat 27 Dec 2008, 06:56

Isn't that what I said?
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Post by Zat Sat 27 Dec 2008, 07:00

taips, you're being very 'government official' on this.

If SAf is suggesting that the BD Test be in SAf, then surely that means taking it away from the MCG. And it's only SAf suggesting it. Which... is... what... I... said...

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Post by taipan Sat 27 Dec 2008, 07:01

Zat I said Aus can have as many Boxing Day games as you like. Just not against us.
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Post by Zat Sat 27 Dec 2008, 07:05

I've got no problem with that. And if SAf can start making a spectacle of Test cricket at home, then that would also be good for the game globally.

Anyway, after the tour in afew weeks, the next Aus tour of SAf is scheduled for October 2011 IIRC. Bloody hard to hold a Boxing Day Test in October...

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Post by taipan Sat 27 Dec 2008, 07:08

Zat wrote:I've got no problem with that. And if SAf can start making a spectacle of Test cricket at home, then that would also be good for the game globally.

Anyway, after the tour in afew weeks, the next Aus tour of SAf is scheduled for October 2011 IIRC. Bloody hard to hold a Boxing Day Test in October...

I think this might be where the entire debate started.

Unfortunately the isolation years hit SA test attendences badly. When Aus toured here in 69 there was a capacity crowd for the Boxing Day game.
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Post by Zat Sat 27 Dec 2008, 07:10

And if the SAf crowds had started coming back to Test cricket - you only tour here one out of four years - then there might be a case for alternating the series. But given that the crowd at most SAf Tests would fit in a broom cupboard, there's no case for it at the moment.

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Post by taipan Sat 27 Dec 2008, 07:13

Zat wrote:And if the SAf crowds had started coming back to Test cricket - you only tour here one out of four years - then there might be a case for alternating the series. But given that the crowd at most SAf Tests would fit in a broom cupboard, there's no case for it at the moment.


Nice edit.

But the converse holds true as well.
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Post by Zat Sat 27 Dec 2008, 07:15

If you build it, they will come, eh?

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Post by Fred Nerk Sat 27 Dec 2008, 07:27

This is a classic storm in a teacup.

Yeah, the Sith Eff wallys are grandstanding (or 'grend-stending' as they would call it), and they've got stuff's hope and if they have half a brain they know it. But all the same I'd be interested to see exactly what tone the Oz suits are taking, and how full of absolutely unnecessary self-righteous 'how dare you' crap they might be. The more, the longer this 'story' keeps its legs - there's no Laverne without Shirley..

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