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Re: Hair v ICC, employment tribunal, London, Oct 1st to 9th
Oi, cnuts, stop farking up this thread. In years to come we can look back on this masterpeice of logical analysis and fair-mindedness as the highpoint of our time spent on Dello's forum.
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Re: Hair v ICC, employment tribunal, London, Oct 1st to 9th
Furry's right in that Hair was the protagonist. He caught the ball, looked at it and said "Hey Billy, what do you reckon to this?". Of course Billy is so weak, that he acquiesced Hair straightaway without any thought of the ramifications. By this I don't mean Pakistan chucking a gigantic wobbly, but the fact that a tribunal would come from this case - there should have been no doubt in his mind what would have occurred in the aftermath.
At that time he must have known(what should've happened anyway) that whatever happened to Hair would happen to him and if he wasn't entirely 'happy' about what Hair was saying that they'd both carry the can.
So, in essence Hair could've said "There's a few marks on the ball, let's nail these cheating cnuts with a ball tampering charge" but Billyboy would've had to have agreed with it. If Hair's 'force of personality' press-ganged Billy into it, then he shouldn't be on the elite panel anyway.
At that time he must have known(what should've happened anyway) that whatever happened to Hair would happen to him and if he wasn't entirely 'happy' about what Hair was saying that they'd both carry the can.
So, in essence Hair could've said "There's a few marks on the ball, let's nail these cheating cnuts with a ball tampering charge" but Billyboy would've had to have agreed with it. If Hair's 'force of personality' press-ganged Billy into it, then he shouldn't be on the elite panel anyway.
Re: Hair v ICC, employment tribunal, London, Oct 1st to 9th
'If Hair's 'force of personality' press-ganged Billy into it, then he shouldn't be on the elite panel anyway."
Bingo!
Bingo!
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Re: Hair v ICC, employment tribunal, London, Oct 1st to 9th
Breaking news on Cricinfo:
Darrell Hair tribunal, 6th day
Hair drops racial discrimination case against ICC
Ivo Tennant in London
October 9, 2007
Darrell Hair has dropped his racial discrimination case against the ICC.
More to follow.
© Cricinfo
Darrell Hair tribunal, 6th day
Hair drops racial discrimination case against ICC
Ivo Tennant in London
October 9, 2007
Darrell Hair has dropped his racial discrimination case against the ICC.
More to follow.
© Cricinfo
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Re: Hair v ICC, employment tribunal, London, Oct 1st to 9th
Hopefully the ICC have seen the writing on the wall and given Big Daz a huge cheque.
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JGK wrote:Hopefully the ICC have seen the writing on the wall and given Big Daz a huge cheque.
Would bound to be, no? Or let him back on the elite panel?
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Hair ends ICC discrimination case
Umpires Billy Doctrove and Darrell Hair examine the ball
Darrell Hair has dropped his claim of racial discrimation against the International Cricket Council over his suspension from the elite umpires list.
The Australian was dropped by ICC after the 2006 Oval Test between England and Pakistan was abandoned over ball-tampering allegations.
He took the ICC to an employment tribunal as no action was taken against West Indian co-umpire Billy Doctrove.
Hair could now return to umpiring top matches in March next year.
"Darrell Hair withdraws unconditionally his allegation of racial discrimination against the ICC Board, members and staff," said his lawyer Robert Griffiths QC.
"Mr Hair has undertaken to work with ICC management in accordance with the rehabilitation programme over the next six months."
ICC president Ray Mali said he welcomed the move.
"We are pleased the issue has been resolved," he said.
"We had no option but to defend these serious allegations."
Umpires Billy Doctrove and Darrell Hair examine the ball
Darrell Hair has dropped his claim of racial discrimation against the International Cricket Council over his suspension from the elite umpires list.
The Australian was dropped by ICC after the 2006 Oval Test between England and Pakistan was abandoned over ball-tampering allegations.
He took the ICC to an employment tribunal as no action was taken against West Indian co-umpire Billy Doctrove.
Hair could now return to umpiring top matches in March next year.
"Darrell Hair withdraws unconditionally his allegation of racial discrimination against the ICC Board, members and staff," said his lawyer Robert Griffiths QC.
"Mr Hair has undertaken to work with ICC management in accordance with the rehabilitation programme over the next six months."
ICC president Ray Mali said he welcomed the move.
"We are pleased the issue has been resolved," he said.
"We had no option but to defend these serious allegations."
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Re: Hair v ICC, employment tribunal, London, Oct 1st to 9th
This would appear to be a reaction to Mali's statement last week that he saw no reason that Hair should not resume umpiring at the top level again.
The other possibility is that ICC are giving Hair a large settlement and that there was more muck to rake.
The other possibility is that ICC are giving Hair a large settlement and that there was more muck to rake.
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tac wrote:JGK wrote:Hopefully the ICC have seen the writing on the wall and given Big Daz a huge cheque.
Would bound to be, no? Or let him back on the elite panel?
Sounds to me like the ICC knew they would be busted for at least the unfair dismissal claim and have done a deal
What does this mean though?
'"Mr Hair has undertaken to work with ICC management in accordance with the rehabilitation programme over the next six months."
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Rehabilitation (per ICC mandate) = doing things THEIR way.
What an absolute fudge .... and disappointment.
Surprised at Hair's comb-down .... pun intended.
What an absolute fudge .... and disappointment.
Surprised at Hair's comb-down .... pun intended.
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Hair has doubtless signed an agreement which prohibits him from commenting on this.
In other words the ICC has brushed the entire mess under the carpet again.
In other words the ICC has brushed the entire mess under the carpet again.
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JKLever wrote:tac wrote:JGK wrote:Hopefully the ICC have seen the writing on the wall and given Big Daz a huge cheque.
Would bound to be, no? Or let him back on the elite panel?
Sounds to me like the ICC knew they would be busted for at least the unfair dismissal claim and have done a deal
What does this mean though?
'"Mr Hair has undertaken to work with ICC management in accordance with the rehabilitation programme over the next six months."
Well, they couldn't turn around and say he's ready to umpire right now, could they? That would be an admission they were wrong in the first place. So, rehabilitation it is.
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taipan wrote:Hair has doubtless signed an agreement which prohibits him from commenting on this.
In other words the ICC has brushed the entire mess under the carpet again.
Well, guess they are competent in some areas.
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Shoeshine wrote: So, rehabilitation it is.
How do you "rehabilitate" someone who was considered (by his employers) to be amongst the top three at his job ?
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Merlin wrote:Shoeshine wrote: So, rehabilitation it is.
How do you "rehabilitate" someone who was considered (by his employers) to be amongst the top three at his job ?
Teach him Urdu?
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Merlin wrote:Shoeshine wrote: So, rehabilitation it is.
How do you "rehabilitate" someone who was considered (by his employers) to be amongst the top three at his job ?
We know thats all bunk. A deal has been done because the ICC knew they were fooked. Perhaps not on the racial discrimination but most certainly on the unfair dismissal charge.
Hair has got what he wants (a place on the elite panel) and the ICC get to keep face (barely)
Not surprised if Hair got a nice cheque for loss of earnings & has agreed not to umpire in any Pak matches again.
Not that this will be said in public of course
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Perhaps Hair will be leading the rehabilitation? It is ICC Board members who had lost confidence, after all.
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Sounds like Big D, got exactly what he wanted........
He would have had no where to go even if he had won the case. This way he gets his job, back and the ICC look like fools. Win, win for him.
Rehabilitation will be a sit down twice in the period and dscuss his bedside manner or something. He'll also probably be weened back into the test and ODI arena.
He would have had no where to go even if he had won the case. This way he gets his job, back and the ICC look like fools. Win, win for him.
Rehabilitation will be a sit down twice in the period and dscuss his bedside manner or something. He'll also probably be weened back into the test and ODI arena.
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Rachel wrote:Perhaps Hair will be leading the rehabilitation? It is ICC Board members who had lost confidence, after all.
I reckon Bruce Elliot should do the rehabilitation.
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JKLever wrote:Merlin wrote:Shoeshine wrote: So, rehabilitation it is.
How do you "rehabilitate" someone who was considered (by his employers) to be amongst the top three at his job ?
We know thats all bunk. A deal has been done because the ICC knew they were fooked. Perhaps not on the racial discrimination but most certainly on the unfair dismissal charge.
Hair has got what he wants (a place on the elite panel) and the ICC get to keep face (barely)
Not surprised if Hair got a nice cheque for loss of earnings & has agreed not to umpire in any Pak matches again.
Not that this will be said in public of course
Precisely. All I was saying was that for public consumption, the ICC couldn't be seen to roll over in surrender. Hence the face-saving position of "rehabilitation".
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Rehabilitation? Perhaps a course on crisis management.
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So Hair DOES have compassion for his employers after all.
He had the ICC on the ropes after two body blows - all he needed to do was press on for the knock out.
But he let them off by handing them a " face saving" lifeline in accepting a convoluted agreement involving rehabilitation.
Let's hope his bank account is swelled by a six figure sum on the QT!
He had the ICC on the ropes after two body blows - all he needed to do was press on for the knock out.
But he let them off by handing them a " face saving" lifeline in accepting a convoluted agreement involving rehabilitation.
Let's hope his bank account is swelled by a six figure sum on the QT!
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The ICC have insisted he wasn't paid off. I'm sure there's a certain legerdemain that allows them to say that within the sphere of his contract though.
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Shoeshine wrote:The ICC have insisted he wasn't paid off. I'm sure there's a certain legerdemain that allows them to say that within the sphere of his contract though.
To paraphrase "They would, wouldn't they"
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JKLever wrote:Merlin wrote:Shoeshine wrote: So, rehabilitation it is.
How do you "rehabilitate" someone who was considered (by his employers) to be amongst the top three at his job ?
We know thats all bunk. A deal has been done because the ICC knew they were fooked. Perhaps not on the racial discrimination but most certainly on the unfair dismissal charge.
Hair has got what he wants (a place on the elite panel) and the ICC get to keep face (barely)
Not surprised if Hair got a nice cheque for loss of earnings & has agreed not to umpire in any Pak matches again.
Not that this will be said in public of course
How were they done on unfair dismissal? Hair wasn't dismissed. And even now he's not going to officiate in games involving Test nations, so he's backto where he was.
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