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Post by mynah Thu 18 Feb 2010, 12:01

The India/South Africa 2nd test produced some pretty strange statistics. I wondered...

How many times has a team that lost a test by an innings won the next in the same series by a similar margin (and vice versa, of course)?

How many times, in an innings defeat

* Has a member of the losing team scored a century in each innings?
* Has the losing team scored three (or more) individual centuries in the match?
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Post by tac Thu 18 Feb 2010, 12:02

they've all been answered elsewhere . . . lazy shite
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Post by mynah Thu 18 Feb 2010, 12:03

Was asking an expert, not you...
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Post by tac Thu 18 Feb 2010, 12:04

I'll let that ride as I can tell you're hurting just now . .. Laughing
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Post by skully Thu 18 Feb 2010, 12:06

As answered in the Test thread:

Large turn arounds in same series:

Ind bt Pak by Inns+ 70 Delhi 1952-53
Pak bt Ind by Inns+ 43 Lucknow 1952-53

Eng bt Aus by Inns+ 93 Sydney 1965-66
Aus bt Eng by Inns+ 9 Adelaide 1965-66

WI bt Eng by Inns+ 55 Leeds 1966
Eng bt WI by Inns+ 34 The Oval 1966

Plus current series.
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 18 Feb 2010, 12:07

FFS! Don't people read the forum?
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Post by Merlin Thu 18 Feb 2010, 12:09

They find that hard to do in Seth Afrikka ...

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Post by PeterCS Thu 18 Feb 2010, 12:19

ffs I read the f f forum too much
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Post by mynah Thu 18 Feb 2010, 12:26

Sadly, work interferes with my attempts to read every thread right through, and the search function on FB is as crap as ever.
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Post by Brass Monkey Thu 18 Feb 2010, 12:29

mynah wrote:Sadly, work interferes with my attempts to read every thread right through

Yeah, I used to be like that. My condolences! Wink
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Post by WideWally Thu 18 Feb 2010, 12:38

mynah wrote:Sadly, work interferes with my attempts to read every thread right through, and the search function on FB is as crap as ever.

Ask for overtime so you can read the forum. I'm sure they'll understand.
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Post by Allan D Thu 18 Feb 2010, 13:59

Of the previous 66 instances in Tests where a batsman has made a century in each innings 8 have been in a losing cause, of these 2 have been in an innings defeat. They are as follows:

1) V.S.Hazare who made 116 & 145 for India v. Australia at the Adelaide Oval in January 1948 when Australia won by an innings and 16 runs.

2) C.L.Walcott who made 155 & 110 for the West Indies also against Australia at Sabina Park in June 1955 when Australia won by an innings and 82 runs.

The remaining 6 instances of a player scoring a century in each innings in a losing cause are as follows:

1) H.Sutcliffe 176 & 127 v. Australia at the MCG, January 1925 (lost by 81 runs)

2) G.A.Headley 106 & 107 v. England at The Oval, August 1939 (lost by 8 wickets).

3) S.M.Gavaskar 111 & 137 v. Pakistan at Karachi, November 1978 (lost by 8 wickets).

4) A.Flower 142 & 199 v. South Africa at Harare, September 2001 (lost by 9 wickets)

5) B.C. Lara 221 & 130 v. Sri Lanka at Colombo, November 2001 (lost by 10 wickets)

6) A.J.Strauss 123 & 108 v. India at Chennai, December 2008 (lost by 6 wickets).
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Post by Allan D Thu 18 Feb 2010, 14:28

The record number of centurions in a losing side is 4 and is held by Australia in the 3rd Test v. England at the MCG over the New Year period in 1928-9 when A.F.Kippax made 100 and J.Ryder 112 in the 1st innings and W.M.Woodfull 107 and D.G.Bradman 112 in the 2nd innings but still lost by 3 wickets.

There have been at least 2 other instances of a side containing 3 century-makers and going on to lose. These are:

1) England (J.B.Hobbs 115 - 1st innings - H.Sutcliffe 115 & F.E.Woolley 123 - 2nd innings) v. Australia at the SCG - December 1924 (lost by 193 runs).

2) India (V.S.Hazare 116 & D.G.Phadkar 123 - 1st innings - V.S.Hazare 145 - 2nd innings) v. Australia at the Adelaide Oval - January 1948 (lost by an innings & 16 runs).
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