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Post by taipan Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:19

best test finisher of his generation?

He has played some monumental 4th innings.
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Post by Paul Keating Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:23

Ponting has a tremendous 4th innings record and has chased down many a total
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Post by Henry Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:26

The best 4th innings knock I have seen was Lara's 153* against Aus in 1999.

Mark Butcher's 172 at Headingley in 2001 was good as well.

Without having any statistical evidence to hand, I seem to remember Trescothick being pretty decent in the 4th innings.
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Post by The One Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:27

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;innings_number=4;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=500;qualval1=runs;result=1;spanmax1=31+Dec+2011;spanmin1=01+Jan+1990;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

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Post by The One Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:34

smith now has the most hundreds in successful 4th innings chases. in test history

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Post by lardbucket Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:39

where is Tendulkar on that list?

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Post by taipan Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:41

lardbucket wrote:where is Tendulkar on that list?

It only lists the top 100.
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Post by Henry Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:42

Harsh. And not even fair.
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Post by The One Fri 11 Nov 2011, 10:44

everyone is obsessed with tendulkar. what a man

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Post by Brass Monkey Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:01

Is Graeme Smith the.... biggest qunt in cricket? No, not any more. Still a bit of a qunt though.

Plus he's gay and a bit fat.
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Post by Henry Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:08

Probably one of the most underrated batsmen of the modern era. He and Cook will get very close to whatever runs record SRT ends up setting.
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Post by The One Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:15

not sure if he is underrated. a bit like inzi i guess, can be very very good at times, approaching great. but also has long periods where he is just about good. a solid bat, but not one of the top ones of his era

hard to believe he is only 9 years into his test career though. seems to have been around for more than that

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Post by Henry Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:19

I actually thought Inzi was a bit overrated.
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Post by PeterCS Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:20

don't you mean overweighted?
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Post by taipan Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:21

The One wrote:not sure if he is underrated. a bit like inzi i guess, can be very very good at times, approaching great. but also has long periods where he is just about good. a solid bat, but not one of the top ones of his era

hard to believe he is only 9 years into his test career though. seems to have been around for more than that
Smith has played a number of matchwinning innings.

I rate that higher than simply accumulating runs on roads.
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Post by The One Fri 11 Nov 2011, 11:22

Henry wrote:I actually thought Inzi was a bit overrated.

by pakistanis. especially imran khan who still believes inzi was the best of his era

i think most would put him in the below great bracket. with an azhar, a thorpe, a mark waugh

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Post by Yorkie Jill Sat 12 Nov 2011, 00:51

Henry wrote:Probably one of the most underrated batsmen of the modern era. He and Cook will get very close to whatever runs record SRT ends up setting.

Why 'underrated'? Because no one calls him 'great' yet?

I used to think he was quite fit. Not while he was demolishing England in '03, but maybe after that. Plus, his aussie double plays in my bf's Yorkshire league team. Uncanny.
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Post by Lara Lara Laughs Sun 13 Nov 2011, 21:12

Hayden and Langer chased down many a total on their own. Course, they often had lots of sessions or an innings in hand to do so.
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