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Post by Red Tue 12 Nov 2013, 07:29

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/michael-clarke-takes-swing-at-naive-former-coach-mickey-arthur-20131111-2xcdk.html

It really has been the season for coming off the long run.
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Post by taipan Tue 12 Nov 2013, 07:46

So effectively Clarke is pissed off that the truth of his relationship with Watson came out.
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Post by G.Wood Tue 12 Nov 2013, 21:49

Is Clarke publicly airing his feelings about Mickey's feelings being publicly aired?
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Post by taipan Tue 19 Nov 2013, 08:42

And Haddin jumps on the bandwagon.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013-14/content/current/story/689965.html
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Post by Big Dog Tue 19 Nov 2013, 08:48

Of course if they'd listened to me all this brewhaha could have been avoided. I stated on the day Arthur was appointed that it would end in tears. As i remember, few at the time took me seriously. Cool 
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Post by taipan Tue 19 Nov 2013, 08:51

Odd, when Aus was successful everyone said a coach had nothing to do with it.

now the situation is reversed it is all the coaches fault.
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Post by Big Dog Tue 19 Nov 2013, 08:54

taipan wrote:Odd, when Aus was successful everyone said a coach had nothing to do with it.

now the situation is reversed it is all the coaches fault.
The rot set in when coaches started to have too much say in the players selected.
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Post by embee Tue 19 Nov 2013, 15:01

Odd that Haddin would be bitter about a coach who sacked him
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Post by furriner Tue 19 Nov 2013, 15:16

Is this the Pakistani team?
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Post by horace Tue 19 Nov 2013, 21:28

haddin's objection about Arthur is that the latter believed a wicketkeeper should be in the test team
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Post by MoH Wed 20 Nov 2013, 11:04

Didn't realise untill I read that Haddin article that he claimed a record number of dismissals for a Test series in the last Ashes. Just imagine how many it would have been if he could catch.

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Post by taipan Wed 20 Nov 2013, 11:08

MoH wrote:Didn't realise untill I read that Haddin article that he claimed a record number of dismissals for a Test series in the last Ashes. Just imagine how many it would have been if he could catch.
And If English batsmen had walked.
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Post by MoH Wed 20 Nov 2013, 12:13

Touché

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Post by Merlin Wed 20 Nov 2013, 15:51

taipan wrote:
MoH wrote:Didn't realise untill I read that Haddin article that he claimed a record number of dismissals for a Test series in the last Ashes. Just imagine how many it would have been if he could catch.
And If English batsmen had walked.
. . . yet, if the occasional one or two hadn't "grounded" first.

PS I'll wager that English batsmen take their lead from their Aussie counterparts . . . and vice versa!

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Post by Brass Monkey Wed 20 Nov 2013, 16:18

I didn't really understand the connection, because Haddin dropped it - maybe it was NSR.
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Post by horace Wed 20 Nov 2013, 21:47

dropsy haddit misses 1 in 4
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Post by embee Sat 23 Nov 2013, 04:13

Former Australian cricket coach Mickey Arthur, in his exclusive column for The West, explains why he became a target for criticism from players.

It was with utter disbelief and disappointment that I read Brad Haddin's comments about me this week.

Again, sadly, it did not surprise me and clearly illustrates players always looking to blame someone else or the system before taking a good, hard look in the mirror at themselves.

Australian sport is going through a very interesting phase, with cricket at the forefront.

I must stress that I loved my time with the Australian team, and felt honoured and privileged to be coach of such a proud nation.

Most of the players were good, hard-working citizens who deserved everything they got. But some were living in the past and thought they were untouchable.

I was brought in as a change agent. The Argus Review had identified the need for there to be a cultural shift, with values and behaviours of all players dissected.

Disappointingly, I was not left to finish the job I started, castigated for being too soft on one hand and then too hard on the other.

So when Brad said I was insecure, damn right. We all were because the system made us that way - every move scrutinised, especially by people happier to see you fail rather than succeed.

Some in the old boys' club resented the fact that a South African had been brought in to coach the team and certainly made life very difficult.

I always felt that I had to do twice as well than if an Australian was coach.

What I tried to do was bring in the same principles that had made my time with South Africa very rewarding and successful.

Unfortunately, I found resistance to it along the way, especially from some senior players who always knew better.

The fact is if you do the same you get the same results, and the team was not going along all that flash when I came in. In contrast, the South African boys embraced it and ran with it.

Some of the Australian players thought it was un-Australian!

Most Australian players bought into what we wanted to do, it was just a few who thought that they knew it all and at times I felt the coach was not treated as highly as in England or South Africa.

There are some things a beer and a chat can't fix.

Good teams and organisations are based around good solid principles and values. A team comes together when it collectively decides to set some rigorous standards and adheres to them.

In Mohali, I made a massive decision to suspend four players from a Test match because they had not adhered to an instruction.

I was slaughtered for my decision by most of the public, ex-players and some of my bosses who thought it was just not cricket.

This week Ewen McKenzie suspended six Wallabies for not adhering to team protocol and he is seen as a strong leader and culture changer.

What was different I ask?

So, Brad when you say the team was jumping at shadows, of course it was because it was taking short cuts.

Winning teams play with smiles on their faces. I have often heard the quote "winning teams celebrate while losing teams have meetings". That is so true. We had meetings during that time and yes I did challenge players because we were striving to get results, always looking for a solution.

Brad, I think you are a fantastic player as your innings in this Test match showed, but understand I was very shocked by your remarks as I thought our relationship was strong.

I am really delighted by the Australian team's performance yesterday, but a shift in mindset is still definitely required to make this success sustainable.
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Post by Merlin Sat 23 Nov 2013, 08:02

Cringeworthy . . . . ugggh!

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