Re: England v New Zealand, 5xODI + 1xT20, 9-23 Jun, 2015

by Basil Sat 20 Jun 2015, 12:17

Another inside edge onto the stumps

by taipan Sat 20 Jun 2015, 12:21

Brass Monkey wrote:Isn't anyone going to talk about the fact that Adil Rashid is a blacked up Jon Snow?

You know nothing Adil Rashid.

by Brass Monkey Sat 20 Jun 2015, 13:02

Caught Bairstow bowled Stokes... has there been a more ginger dismissal in the history of cricket?

by JGK Sat 20 Jun 2015, 13:11

Brass Monkey wrote:Caught Bairstow bowled Stokes... has there been a more ginger dismissal in the history of cricket?

Shame Chris Rogers wasn't batting.

by Basil Sat 20 Jun 2015, 13:11

Brass Monkey wrote:Caught Bairstow bowled Stokes... has there been a more ginger dismissal in the history of cricket?

It's just a pity it wasn't Sean Pollock batting.

by Basil Sat 20 Jun 2015, 13:12

JGK wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:Caught Bairstow bowled Stokes... has there been a more ginger dismissal in the history of cricket?

Shame Chris Rogers wasn't batting.

I think that's what they call great minds thinking alike!

by tricycle Sat 20 Jun 2015, 13:13

Bairstow picked that leg spinner worse than Santner. Think he was lucky it hit the stumps.

by Basil Sat 20 Jun 2015, 13:14

Adil Rashid - he's no Ian Salisbury.

by Brass Monkey Sat 20 Jun 2015, 13:19

tricycle wrote:Bairstow picked that leg spinner worse than Santner. Think he was lucky it hit the stumps.

Aye - alarming that they've played a lot of cricket together and he still can't pick what Rashid is bowling. Doesn't bode well. Shame they didn't allow Billings to keep.

by tricycle Sat 20 Jun 2015, 13:25

Is Billings rated as a keeper or only a hitter? If he's behind Buttler, he can't really be the best. But he can't be much worse than Bairstow, can he?

by Growler Sat 20 Jun 2015, 13:41

Basil wrote:
JGK wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:Caught Bairstow bowled Stokes... has there been a more ginger dismissal in the history of cricket?

Shame Chris Rogers wasn't batting.

I think that's what they call great minds thinking alike!

Or alternatively ..........

fools seldom differ Very Happy

by Basil Sat 20 Jun 2015, 13:42

Growler wrote:
Basil wrote:
JGK wrote:
Brass Monkey wrote:Caught Bairstow bowled Stokes... has there been a more ginger dismissal in the history of cricket?

Shame Chris Rogers wasn't batting.

I think that's what they call great minds thinking alike!

Or alternatively ..........

fools seldom differ

I was waiting for that, you win today's cyber fiver!

by Brass Monkey Sat 20 Jun 2015, 14:05

tricycle wrote:Is Billings rated as a keeper or only a hitter? If he's behind Buttler, he can't really be the best. But he can't be much worse than Bairstow, can he?

Bairstow has tidied up in the last 15 overs, actually. Maybe it's the knicks nerves.

by lardbucket Sat 20 Jun 2015, 14:08

10-0-45-2

They're going to be the best figures today but he's still not good enough to be given a chance in the Tests.

by Basil Sat 20 Jun 2015, 14:20

Bumble made a comment on commentary that he thought that the squad picked for the fitness and fielding trip to Spain was not necessarily the Ashes squad, so there might be hope for Rashid.

by lardbucket Sat 20 Jun 2015, 14:22

by beamer Sat 20 Jun 2015, 14:36

Looks like it will probably be normal service resumed as we fail to get anywhere close to a chase of 280-odd...

Morgan seems to be struggling for a plan at the end of the innings in terms of who to bowl. They got 20 or 30 more than they should have done there.

by Basil Sat 20 Jun 2015, 14:36

284 for England to win then thanks to a shoite last over from Finn, but NZ were looking good for 300 after 30 overs.

by Lindsay no.2 Sat 20 Jun 2015, 17:55

beamer wrote:Looks like it will probably be normal service resumed as we fail to get anywhere close to a chase of 280-odd...

Morgan seems to be struggling for a plan at the end of the innings in terms of who to bowl. They got 20 or 30 more than they should have done there.

Not sure if Morgan is struggling for a plan - rather than struggling to get his so called 'top performer' Finn to bowl with a bit of nous. That last over he bowled was filth. A series of half volleys, which he expertly delivered to a guy backing away to leg by the way, to a batsman who was lining him up over midwicket. If he had bowled with a bit more sense and cunning then that over of 20+ should have been a lot, lot less.

I am beginning to sound like a real Finn hater but I am genuinely struggling to see how he commands a place in the squad let alone the team.

Pace - none to speak of. Runs a hell of a long way to delvier powderpuff balls.
Accuracy - not really, considering he dobs it in at low 80s. He's about as quick as Shane Watson - and a lot less threatening and certainly nowhere near as stingey.
Cunning - no. He doesn't seem to be able to really think his way through a bad spot. Gets slogged with a half volley, so then repeats it ad infinitum. Althoguh to be fair he did bowl a decent slow ball once today that kind of worked.

Wood looks like a genuine threat when he gets the ball and is capable of getting people out 'properly' - i.e. not when they're just looking to whack him or just slogging at the end. Finn doesn't really seem to have the tools to take people out conventionally.

Plunkett for Finn?

And with Willey coming along (and being the leftie that England so badly feel they need) is Jordan's career in full throttle reverse. Gone from 3rd seamer in WI tests to now maybe sitting on the sidelines waiting for injuries to get a chance to get back into ODI squad.

by taipan Sat 20 Jun 2015, 19:26

merlin wrote:D/L is the best system ever invented.

by Brass Monkey Sat 20 Jun 2015, 19:31

Outstanding innings by Jonny Bairstow - dreaded him earlier, but that was just fantastic. Dragged us over the line big time. That was awesome to watch.

Great series, too. Brilliant as a spectator. One of the better ones I've seen. Would've preferred a third Test, though...........

by LeFromage Sat 20 Jun 2015, 19:38

As JAMODI series go, that was an absolute belter. England batted like f*cking idiots for the main part today, though. It's all right being super positive and all, but you need to bring your brain as well.

Super knock by Jonny B, good day out for Rashid again - blimey, it's like we've got options or something.

I thought England would do well to win one game in this series, with the squad they picked, and just wanted to see a bit of progress, bit of intent. Amazed that they've won it - in spite of being quite awful in the field (how many catches went down?).

It's progress, folks. It's probably a flash in the pan, folks. But it's progress.

by eowyn Sat 20 Jun 2015, 19:46

Go the Ginga Jingas. And to the haters on this forum who think skin colour, race and religion make for good things to take the piss out off, do you feel even slightly stupid?

by LeFromage Sat 20 Jun 2015, 19:50

Dello wrote:
Bairstow can give it some welly. For three balls until he's bowled through the gate.

Nailed it.

by taipan Sat 20 Jun 2015, 19:51

Great series. Probably the best since the 438 series.

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