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Post by lardbucket Sun 29 Dec 2019, 02:14

ARTICLE BY ZEDDY

long statistical article, but well worth a look

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Post by Red Sun 29 Dec 2019, 02:18

Long, but interesting.

Always thought that this is a valid part of statistics.
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Post by lardbucket Sun 29 Dec 2019, 02:19

He's done a hell of a lot of research on it.

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Post by Bradman Sun 29 Dec 2019, 02:39

Lardy I can't open that. Can you tell me the site please.
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Post by lardbucket Sun 29 Dec 2019, 03:31

http://www.sportstats.com.au/articles/droppedcatches2016.pdf

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Post by Bradman Sun 29 Dec 2019, 04:18

Ta mate.
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Post by horace Sun 29 Dec 2019, 05:14

Terrific piece of work. I have always wanted some form of error count, esp for keepers.
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Post by horace Sun 29 Dec 2019, 19:49

Lardy, if you are in touch with Zeddy please pass on our thanks for an amazing piece of work.

I wonder if it is possible re keepers to further break down stumping, catches missed from spin or quicks and run-outs stuffed up.

Keeping is the one specialist position that should be measured by error rate to identify their worth.

Just as bats are now almost unrecognisable from those I used, so too are keeper's gloves. Modern day gloves are quite different to those mittens used by Tallon and (my hero) Wally Grout or even Alan Knott. This makes cross generational comparisons difficult but still fun.
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Post by lardbucket Sun 29 Dec 2019, 22:08

I'm not in touch with Zeddy - not now, not previously.

As you know he used to post on the ABC forum and perhaps briefly on C4.

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Post by Bradman Mon 30 Dec 2019, 01:23

He's got a wen site and is a member of some sports stats assoc.  You can probably get a lead on howstat.  
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Post by JGK Mon 30 Dec 2019, 06:23

His email address is on his website.

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Post by Fred Nerk Mon 30 Dec 2019, 07:56

The 'lucky' sub section was the most interesting for me. One of the ways I have always quickly identified the 'death riders' is when they lament that their hobby-horse was dropped first ball on their way to a (career-saving/selfish/flat track) 100, selectively cancelling the merit of the innings even if they went chanceless from ball 2 onwards - like they're whining about how much easier their argument would be to make if there was a globe where that 135 not out is in their form line. Whereas if a bloke gets dropped at, say, 64, 88, 126 and 177 on the way to a double century it hardly ever gets mentioned.

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Post by Bradman Mon 30 Dec 2019, 08:57

Barry Richards was dropped near 200 in that shield match.
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Post by taipan Mon 30 Dec 2019, 09:04

Lara was dropped on 18
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Post by Bradman Mon 30 Dec 2019, 09:08

The fc record or one of the test ones?
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Post by taipan Mon 30 Dec 2019, 09:13

The 501
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Post by beamer Mon 30 Dec 2019, 10:18

Yeah, and the understatement of the century from Durham keeper Chris Scott who said “he’s sure to get a hundred now”... wasn’t he bowled by a noey on 0 as well?

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Post by Bradman Mon 30 Dec 2019, 11:11

The guy who dropped Richards comforted himself with the thought he couldn't get too many more. Ooops!
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Post by lardbucket Tue 05 Jan 2021, 23:39

beamer wrote:Yeah, and the understatement of the century from Durham keeper Chris Scott who said “he’s sure to get a hundred now”... wasn’t he bowled by a noey on 0 as well?

is this true?

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Post by Fred Nerk Wed 06 Jan 2021, 01:52

And are we absolutely sure the Durham howzat-howler with the iron gloves was Chris Scott and not Brad?

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