From the inclusive language files

Again, “mother” is surely a biological term, for someone who gives birth. Doesn’t matter whether or not they consider themselves to be female?

beamer wrote:Again, “mother” is surely a biological term, for someone who gives birth. Doesn’t matter whether or not they consider themselves to be female?

One would think so.

[quote="Bradman"]Well Red I'll offer to pay all inclusive for southern schoolkids and their braindead teachers to come to one of the gullf properties where they can play with Toby the sexually and gender challenged wiener.   Should be a nice day for him as he'll be chops and sausages the next day and we like to offer a more personal service to the mentally farked up ones.


But only if you stop posting fruit loop views of people whose fruit loop book is coming out that week.  Though the decoy conversation on ties was alright, I hate the farkers too.[/quote]

The tie as a phallic symbol is surely a stretch though.

'Stretch' - Boom Boom!

Red wrote:

beamer wrote:Again, “mother” is surely a biological term, for someone who gives birth. Doesn’t matter whether or not they consider themselves to be female?

One would think so.

Although I suppose it gets complicated with adoptive mothers/fathers etc...

Do I address you as Stan or Loretta? Where's the bleeding foetus going to gestate?

Desert Island Disc baby.

Many decades ago I was taken aback when arguing with someone who called me a "personipulator".

It was one of those moments when you know subsequent days will be wasted trying to find the right response.

At least prove this shit's worth doing by doing it 100% - so FFS 'perprogenipulator'!!!!

Either way ignoring them, or transferring them to a desk full of "awfully gender infected language" should at least get the job done.

Red wrote:
This is in the British context.

Articles like this popping up all over the place.

Policy tells midwives ...

the irony

I suspect this is one of those SBM idiot-memes-and-handbags-at-50-paces mass-debates where the winner is whichever side succeeds at boring the other into submission

I cab remember laughing at being told I was a personipulator. This was well over 40 years ago.

Of course I find the mucking around with language irritating. Still I get how language structures realities and it is a battleground.

Australian Actor Hugh Sheridan comes out as non-binary but prefers to avoid labels

By Annika Burgess  2 hrs ago 


Hugh Sheridan poses during the Amazon Video Media Call at Crown Towers Sydney on May 18, 2021 in Sydney, Australia. Getty Hugh Sheridan poses during the Amazon Video Media Call at Crown Towers Sydney on May 18, 2021 in Sydney, Australia.  

Logie-winning actor Hugh Sheridan has come out in an Instagram post as non-binary, but says they are "human" and prefers not to have a label.

The Australian actor made the comments to promote a front cover shoot for gay men's magazine DNA, featuring the 35-year-old and their fiance Kurt Roberts.

"I AM still a human (non binary/bi/me/Hughman) but I’m in a monogamous relationship with another human, who I love," the actor wrote, adding that they "don’t accept a label 'cause it limits me".


"I chose zero labels for no other reason except the exclusion, limitations, separation, I believe are all one, deeeeep down."

Sheridan, best known for their role on the Australian series Packed to the Rafters, spoke publicly about their sexuality last year in Stellar Magazine, saying they had been in relationships with both men and women.

The Adelaide-born actor, who is currently based in Los Angeles, told Stellar Magazine they felt a responsibility to speak out.

"In many ways, I wish I didn’t have to write this, but I feel a responsibility to others who may come after me," they said.

"By sharing my story now, and becoming more transparent, maybe I can help to give others who are private a break. We might live and let them live as they wish."

The actor has avoided being associated with labels, saying they "are for clothes, not for people."

"Why chose?!!" the actor wrote on Instagram.

"Be you. Be true. Be free: to BE, to JUST BE… you, a human, same as me."

Arguably ironic that he doesn't like labels yet comes out as a specific label.

Daily Mail    
The word 'caucasian' should be banned say Cambridge and UCL scientists




Lauren Lewis For Mailonline  1 day ago
 
The word 'caucasian' should be banned because it is 'associated with a racist classification of humans', according to five Cambridge and UCL scientists.

Researchers said scientists should only use the term when absolutely unavoidable but refrain from 'usage where possible'.

Authors of the article titled 'The language of race, ethnicity, and ancestry in human genetic research' said the term Caucasian was an 'old term associated with racist and pseudo-scientific classifications of humans'.

Caucasian, they wrote, is 'an 18th-century term invented to denote pale-skinned northern and western Europeans, or in other archaic connotations a wider range of people based on skull measurements, including west Asians, south Asians, north Africans and Europeans.'

The paper, published on the pre-print sever arxiv, added:  'The language commonly used in human genetics can inadvertently pose problems for multiple reasons.


: The word 'caucasian' should be banned because it is 'associated with a racist classification of humans', according to five Cambridge and UCL scientists (pictured, Trinity College, Cambridge) Provided by Daily Mail The word 'caucasian' should be banned because it is 'associated with a racist classification of humans', according to five Cambridge and UCL scientists (pictured, Trinity College, Cambridge)  
'Terms like 'ancestry', 'ethnicity', and other ways of grouping people can have complex, often poorly understood, or multiple meanings within the various fields of genetics between different domains of biological sciences and medicine, and between scientists and the general public.

The paper said scientists should add quotation marks around the word when used in research, the Telegraph reported.

Authors Dr Ewan Birney, Michael Inouye, Dr Jennifer Raff, Dr Adam Rutherford, and Aylwyn Scally said their is intended 'to stimulate a much-needed discussion about the language of genetics'.g they hoped it would help 'begin a process to clarify existing terminology, and in some cases adopt a new lexicon that both serves scientific insight, and cuts us loose from various aspects of a pernicious past.'

Dr Ewan Birney, deputy director of the European Molecular Biology Laboratory at the Wellcome Genome Campus in Cambridgeshire, has added terms such as 'Native American', 'Hispanic', 'White Irish', and 'European', should also be avoided.

Instead, he says, researchers should use more scientific language derived from a two-step genetic analysis.

'European', for example, would instead be 'the European-associated PCA [principal component analysis] cluster, which aims to minimise variation in non-genetic factors and genetic factors'.

The suggestion, which even Dr Birney terms 'bamboozling' for non-scientists, is intended to prioritise 'technical accuracy over concision'.

The researchers said: 'Some of these suggestions may meet with disagreement; we present them partly to stimulate discussion of these and other terms, and in the hope that this will lead to better and more accurate language conventions and less misunderstanding, particularly outside of human genetics'.

FFS!