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Post by Red Sat 20 Dec 2008, 02:09

And Britain is for the British. No prizes for guessing who said this.

Robert Mugabe: Zimbabwe is mine - I will never surrender




http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5370824.ece
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Post by PeterCS Sat 20 Dec 2008, 03:53

And Springtime for Hitler.
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Post by rey Sat 20 Dec 2008, 11:12

Ironic that the Brits can go half way round the world, and bomb the hell out of a country killing thousands, to fight someone elses war yet they can't be bothered to clean up the mess here that they were partly responsible for creating.

No one is asking for an invasion but why they havent assasinated Mugabe by now is beyond logic. Its not as if our intelligence agencies havent done such things before.
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Post by Guest Sat 20 Dec 2008, 17:45

The last thing we need is to make Mugabe a martyr... He must have a few supporters even now in Zimbabwe.

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Post by Guest Sat 20 Dec 2008, 20:34

rey wrote:Ironic that the Brits can go half way round the world, and bomb the hell out of a country killing thousands, to fight someone elses war yet they can't be bothered to clean up the mess here that they were partly responsible for creating.

Eh? A decade ago Zim had a thriving economy. Mugabe created this mess, not the UK.

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Post by JKLever Sat 20 Dec 2008, 20:37

Rob I wrote:
rey wrote:Ironic that the Brits can go half way round the world, and bomb the hell out of a country killing thousands, to fight someone elses war yet they can't be bothered to clean up the mess here that they were partly responsible for creating.

Eh? A decade ago Zim had a thriving economy. Mugabe created this mess, not the UK.

Sage.
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Post by furriner Sat 20 Dec 2008, 21:08

Clamson wrote:The last thing we need is to make Mugabe a martyr... He must have a few supporters even now in Zimbabwe.

I somehow doubt that at this stage Mugabe will be a martyr to more than his posse, and maybe not even them.
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Post by rey Sat 20 Dec 2008, 22:10

Rob I wrote:
rey wrote:Ironic that the Brits can go half way round the world, and bomb the hell out of a country killing thousands, to fight someone elses war yet they can't be bothered to clean up the mess here that they were partly responsible for creating.

Eh? A decade ago Zim had a thriving economy. Mugabe created this mess, not the UK.


Right and the UK, along with Jimmy Carter's administration had nothing to do with Mugabe coming to power.

When Zimbabwe held its first proper democratic elections in 1979 Bishop Abel Muzorewa won and became prime minister. Yet the Americans and Brits would have none of it. The Bishop was referred to as a 'neo facist' leader and sanctions were still not lifted. The Americans and the UK instead turned to that lovely chap Bob Mugabe who of course returned the favour in 1980 by killing 25,000 people belonging to a minority tribe, the Ndebele. Yet still he was supported.

And the rest is history......

If the will was there they could have easily killed the man years ago and ended this needless suffering his people have gone through. Its not as if our intelligence agencies havent dont this in the past. (there were plans drawn up to kill milosevic and a failed attempt on gaddafi's life)
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Post by lardbucket Sat 20 Dec 2008, 23:05

oh dear, rey fails to grasp logic 1.0

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Post by rey Sun 21 Dec 2008, 18:14

Well its a bit rich for some Brits to wash their hands of this when their government continued to support 'Sir' Robert Mugabe even after he was involved in countless massacres. Why the inaction then yet the crocodile tears now?

I guess as long as dictator X,Y or Z is an ally of ours its fine to turn a blind eye to his butcheries however when things change people suddenly show interest and proclaim ''it must stop'
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Post by JKLever Sun 21 Dec 2008, 18:20

Robert Mugabe has fark all to do with me.

Signed,
A Brit.
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Post by mynah Thu 29 Jan 2009, 13:53

Perhaps this guy should set the rest of his livestock free...
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Post by taipan Fri 30 Jan 2009, 13:34

JKLever wrote:Adolf Hitler has fark all to do with me.

Signed,
A Chamberlain..

Fixed
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Post by JKLever Fri 30 Jan 2009, 14:10

taipan wrote:
JKLever wrote:Adolf Hitler has fark all to do with me.

Signed,
A Chamberlain..

Fixed

Hardly the same thing at all...
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Post by PeterCS Fri 30 Jan 2009, 16:13

Which Chamberlain is that?
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Post by PeterCS Fri 30 Jan 2009, 16:14

Neville Chamberlain didn't cause or ignore Hitler.

He was simply naive.

Next comparison.
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Post by lardbucket Fri 30 Jan 2009, 20:14

Apples v Oranges. Or maybe Bananas v Oranges.

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Post by taipan Sat 31 Jan 2009, 08:16

JKLever wrote:
taipan wrote:
JKLever wrote:Adolf Hitler has fark all to do with me.

Signed,
A Chamberlain..

Fixed

Hardly the same thing at all...

Apart from both of them being dictators who practised genocide?
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Post by Bradman Sat 31 Jan 2009, 08:44

Neither facts of which were known at the time. (paraphrases Sir Humphrey)

The Brits washed their hands of Idi Amin (regrettably) too, and Africa fixed him. Well let's see Africa take it's destiny into it's own hand and stand on their own two legs once again, and maybe the West will throw in a few white advisers and a Carrier Group on a "goodwill mission" to make sure the job's done right.
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Post by Zat Sat 31 Jan 2009, 18:19

Mugumbo is a bigger TQ than Lalit Modi.

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Post by mynah Sat 31 Jan 2009, 19:43

Bradman wrote: Well let's see Africa take it's destiny into it's own hand and stand on their own two legs once again, and maybe the West will throw in a few white advisers and a Carrier Group on a "goodwill mission" to make sure the job's done right.
Africa's hand is in the till and its politicians are legless, and none of the white Western advisers have ever achieved anything lasting.
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Post by lardbucket Sat 31 Jan 2009, 23:16

Not so sure, Mynah. The legacy of the Cubans is still there for all to see.

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Post by PeterCS Sat 31 Jan 2009, 23:17

Cuba sugar, Castro sugar ....
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Post by PeterCS Sat 31 Jan 2009, 23:25

"Me, a gut robber?"

And the crowd goes Yah! yah!
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Post by Makaveli Sun 01 Feb 2009, 00:01

JKLever wrote:Robert Mugabe has fark all to do with me.

Signed,
A Brit.

That's true the average Brit has nothing to do with it.

But the government must take responsibility for a lot messes it has made over the years and there have been many. Instead of following the Americans like sheep we could have saved loads of lives and prevented a lot of injustice by doing something about Mugabe. But ofcourse there's no Islamic radicals in Zim so it's ok for their people to starve and die.
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